Garrison Belt with Star Buckle - What Era?

[Brazos John]

I'm interested in a belt from Texas Jack's, to wear in actions with the Texas Army, circa 1836.

I asked Texas Jack's when it was in use, and I got a great document, see below, but I didn't get a specific answer.

https://history.army.mil/html/museums/uniforms/survey_uwa.pdf

 

Does anybody know when this belt and buckle would have been used?

https://www.texasjacks.com/products/gun-leather/military-rigs/garrison-star-military-belt-brown.html

 

Thanks, y'all,

Brazos John

[Rafe Conager SASS #56958]

Looks like that might be the texas saber belt buckle from the civil war, http://www.ushist.com/19th-century_leather_goods.shtml has one called the Mississippi and Texas spoon and wreath buckle.

Rafe

[TN Mongo, SASS #61450]

Please don't pay that much for that buckle!  Look at the link below.

 

 https://www.ssfirearms.com/search.asp?pg=1&stext=bb35&sprice=&stype=&scat=&sortby=2

 

If I have time later, I will try to track down the date of that buckle's usage.  It is similar to many similar buckles used during the Civil War, but it may be from an earlier era.

[Brazos John]

21 hours ago, Rafe Conager SASS #56958 said:

Looks like that might be the texas saber belt buckle from the civil war, http://www.ushist.com/19th-century_leather_goods.shtml has one called the Mississippi and Texas spoon and wreath buckle.

Rafe

 

9 hours ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:

Please don't pay that much for that buckle!  Look at the link below.

 

 https://www.ssfirearms.com/search.asp?pg=1&stext=bb35&sprice=&stype=&scat=&sortby=2

 

If I have time later, I will try to track down the date of that buckle's usage.  It is similar to many similar buckles used during the Civil War, but it may be from an earlier era.

Both are great sources for Civil War equipment, and S&S firearms is new to me. They have some pretty reasonable prices.

Thanks to both of y'all.

Does anyone know how early that buckle might have been used? Is it exclusively CW, or did it appear earlier?

Thanks, again,

Brazos

 

 

[Abilene, SASS # 27489]

9 hours ago, TN Mongo, SASS #61450 said:

Please don't pay that much for that buckle!  Look at the link below.

 

 https://www.ssfirearms.com/search.asp?pg=1&stext=bb35&sprice=&stype=&scat=&sortby=2

 

If I have time later, I will try to track down the date of that buckle's usage.  It is similar to many similar buckles used during the Civil War, but it may be from an earlier era.

 

Well, nobody ever accused Texas Jacks of being inexpensive.  However, look closely at the two buckles, they are not exactly the same.  And the one from T.J. has the belt included (not sure how much that would add).

[Driftwood Dan SASS #62738L]

I found these Texas buckles images #1 1840-1850   #2 1851   #3 1840 .  Driftwood Dan 

[Brazos John]

20 hours ago, Driftwood Dan SASS #62738L said:

I found these Texas buckles images #1 1840-1850   #2 1851   #3 1840 .  Driftwood Dan 

 

Thanks, Dan,

1840 looks like the earliest year. It's not a far stretch to go from the rectangular to the round buckle, so the round is probably a little later.

Do your sources show buckles from the 1820's and '30's?

Thanks, again,

Brazos

[Driftwood Dan SASS #62738L]

Brazos  These were the earliest listed buckles and came from a private collection.  I found this information  on this link.   http://www.hanoverbrass.com/

[Brazos John]

On ‎10‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 4:08 PM, Driftwood Dan SASS #62738L said:

Brazos  These were the earliest listed buckles and came from a private collection.  I found this information  on this link.   http://www.hanoverbrass.com/

That's a great web site. Lots of neat info.

Thanks.

[watab kid]

agreed , great site with fun info and photos , thanks , i enjoyed going through it 

[Trailrider #896]

www.parsleybrass.com  He has them for $28.95.  He makes quality stuff.  Made the Grand Army of the Frontier belt plates for us.