Death rider Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Hey y'all my brother is interested in sass he already has two revolvers and holsters the holsters are a left handed cross draw and a right handed cross draw. Can he shoot gunfighter? If not what style must he shoot? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goody, SASS #26190 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Anything but gunfighter. Course, if he wears them on the opposite hip he could shoot gunfighter. This all assumes that the holsters don't have more than 30 degrees of cant when worn. If so, they can't be used at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death rider Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 The cant is good but I'm not following the opposite hip thing so he would have to have each crossdraw on further back on each hip and draw one then the other? or are you saying flip them around to strong side with a rearward cant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 REF: SHB pp. 6-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Death rider said: The cant is good but I'm not following the opposite hip thing so he would have to have each crossdraw on further back on each hip and draw one then the other? No he'd wear the right hand cross draw holster on the right side instead of the left as designed and he'd wear the left hand cross draw holster on the right. I'll probably get blasted for this, but in my opinion it isn't a great idea to start SASS as a gunfighter, nor with a crossdraw(if used as a crossdraw). Regardless get him to a match; if he has guns but not holsters I'm sure the match director will let him stage the revolvers until he gets fixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death rider Posted April 16, 2019 Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 Ok I think that answered my questions thank you so much everybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Tyrel's answer confused even me (ain't that hard). DR, you brother has opposing cross draw holsters. Can't do that gunfighter. There are however, a whole pile of shooters who switch the cross draw holsters. Switching them side for side gives the holsters a muzzle forward cant and aids in a smooth(er) draw when the holsters are moved toward the front center of the belt. Basically, the holsters go on the gun belt backwards. Unless your brother has already had lots and lots of practice with his off hand, I do NOT recommend he start out with Gunfighter. The initial outcome will not be harmonious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Colorado Coffinmaker said: Tyrel's answer confused even me (ain't that hard). DR, you brother has opposing cross draw holsters. Can't do that gunfighter. There are however, a whole pile of shooters who switch the cross draw holsters. Switching them side for side gives the holsters a muzzle forward cant and aids in a smooth(er) draw when the holsters are moved toward the front center of the belt. Basically, the holsters go on the gun belt backwards. Unless your brother has already had lots and lots of practice with his off hand, I do NOT recommend he start out with Gunfighter. The initial outcome will not be harmonious. Well actually they CAN use double(opposing) cross draw holsters just like anyone else. What they can't do is draw them cross draw style; have to use a calvary twist or similar method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said: No he'd wear the right hand cross draw holster on the right side instead of the left as designed and he'd wear the left hand cross draw holster on the right. I'll probably get blasted for this, but in my opinion it isn't a great idea to start SASS as a gunfighter, nor with a crossdraw(if used as a crossdraw). Regardless get him to a match; if he has guns but not holsters I'm sure the match director will let him stage the revolvers until he gets fixed up. Wouldn't that be just the same as wearing standard canted holsters cause the way you said that he has both holsters on the right side? It would be really hard to use the Cavalry twist with canted holsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Captain Bill Burt said: Wouldn't that be just the same as wearing standard canted holsters? It would be really hard to use the Cavalry twist with canted holsters. Yes, but he wouldn't have to do the cavalry twist because the grips would be oriented to the rear. The Cavalary twist comment was in the case of wearing the cross draw holsters as designed. Yes it would be hard with canned holsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Bill Burt Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: Yes, but he wouldn't have to do the cavalry twist because the grips would be oriented to the rear. The Cavalary twist comment was in the case of wearing the cross draw holsters as designed. Yes it would be hard with canned holsters. So he wouldn't be shooting cross draw, he would just be doing the standard gunfighter thing with canted holsters? So he's turning cross draws into standard cants? OK, I get it. At first glance it sounded like you had him with two holsters on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death rider Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Tyrel Cody said: Well actually they CAN use double(opposing) cross draw holsters just like anyone else. What they can't do is draw them cross draw style; have to use a calvary twist or similar method. He usually practices a cavalry draw but I was under the impression this was illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Death rider said: He usually practices a cavalry draw but I was under the impression this was illegal? This is what I mean: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death rider Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: This is what I mean: Yes this is exactly what he practices. So he's good to do this duelist? Or gunfighter? He has a Charlie prince rig from 3:10 to Yuma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Chance Morgun Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain Bill Burt said: So he wouldn't be shooting cross draw, he would just be doing the standard gunfighter thing with canted holsters? So he's turning cross draws into standard cants? OK, I get it. At first glance it sounded like you had him with two holsters on the right side. Please note that this is a limited time offer and can not be used in conjunction with any other coupon. Not valid in California, New York, and Ohio. Also void where prohibited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrel Cody Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Death rider said: Yes this is exactly what he practices. So he's good to do this duelist? Or gunfighter? He has a Charlie prince rig from 3:10 to Yuma. Yes, he's good to go. That said, I'd strongly suggest he shoot duelist or double duelist for his first few matches; there's a lot of stuff going on that he'll be better served getting used to before tackling gunfighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying W Ramrod Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 He can shoot gunfighter, he can use cross draw, he just can not do a simultaneous cross draw (both guns at the same time). He can use the cavalry twist if he wants to pull both at the same time. And, as Pale Wolf suggested, and for a lot of folks answering here, read the Shooters Handbook, Pages 6-7, especially page 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death rider Posted April 17, 2019 Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 36 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: Yes, he's good to go. That said, I'd strongly suggest he shoot duelist or double duelist for his first few matches; there's a lot of stuff going on that he'll be better served getting used to before tackling gunfighter. 36 minutes ago, Tyrel Cody said: Yes, he's good to go. That said, I'd strongly suggest he shoot duelist or double duelist for his first few matches; there's a lot of stuff going on that he'll be better served getting used to before tackling gunfighter. Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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