McCandless Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 I'm looking for someone who makes a lighter wt. .38-40 (.38 WCF), with a crimp groove. Usual weight is 175-180 gr. I have seen (in the past) a lighter wt, RNFP with a crimp groove. Can't find it now. All I can find is regular 40 cal. No groove. That's not what I'm after. Any of y'all know of a caster, vendor, company, or bullet fairy, who has what I'm lookin' fer??
Augustus Goodnight Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Bear Creek Supply makes a Moly Coated .38-40 WCF RNFP 180gr .401 DIA. If the pictures I can find of them are of the right product it has a crimp groove. I have been shooting Bear Creek .45 Colt 165/185/205's for about a year now and have nothing but good things to say about their products.
Guest Grass Range #51406 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Bear Creek Supply is back in business? News to me
Southpaw Gringo, SASS # 74217 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 Bear Creek was never out of business. It's a small bullet shop. One guy makes, ships, delivers and answers the phone.
Doc Silverfinger, SASS#3444 Posted June 11, 2015 Posted June 11, 2015 So, Mac - I encountered a similar problem with 38/40. The standard 180gr. bullet works well for me thru my rifle, and never would I "mess" with it. For revolvers I needed to reduce the recoil (I assume that this is why you want the lighter bullet). I chose to cast the Lee .40 cal. 145gr. bullet and use it in pistols only (won't feed thru the rifle). It does not have a crimp groove, but the Lee factory crimp die crimped just a bit forward of the lube groove should be very accurate and do a lot to lessen recoil. Too bad it's only a 2-cavity mold. FWIW, Doc
Tom Bullweed Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 I use .38-40 in 180 grain in my rifles. I use crimp-groove Valiant bullets with smokeless and bullets wihtout drimp grooves for BP sub loads. The case full of powder and a heavy crimp (even without a groove) has worked well.
Powderbags, SASS # 13755L Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 Check your messages Powderbags 38-40wcf@charter.net
Dick Dastardly SASS #45219 Posted June 12, 2015 Posted June 12, 2015 There is a fine 38-40 Big Lube design that drops at 190 grains. Has a well defined crimp grove and a true Big Lube lube grove. DD-MDA
SlicLee SASS #16638 Life Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Why must you have a crimp groove? Most bullets made for 38/40 are 10mm or 40 cal, same O. Hunter if in business, makes a 140 FNT bullet, no CG. If its light load your looking for, the 180 is the only way to go. The 140 will give you a low sound on a hit and spotters will not see but do listen or sometimes both, usually against you, that leaves the 180. Some one used to make a 160 or 165 in a BH o 20 but his price was waay higher, delivery spotty with attitude. Luck to ya,Lee
Roger Rapid Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 McCandless - what are you shooting them in? I have an original Winchester '92 in 38-40 and found that because of the steep elevator angle, it would run best with 175g bullets from a Lyman mold. I was getting these from Dave at Montana Bullets. Dave was very helpful… RR
Three Foot Johnson Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Blakes Bullets 165gr .401 Crimp groove Never heard of it, and all I find doing a search is a football blog. I use a design by NEI Handtools, but it's still 180 grains or somesuch - Lee makes a 175 grain tumble lube style mold that could easily be cut down to 150 grains or thereabouts, by anyone with a lathe.
Southpaw Gringo, SASS # 74217 Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Disregard my post. I was going to say Badman Bullets got them but they only make a 180grn.
Tom Bullweed Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 Duc, have you found anything yet? I enjoy shooting .38-40 more than any other round in my rifles. The only bullets that I have found with a crimp are 180 grainers. I use W-231 for near-factory loads, Titegroup for softer smokeless loads and APP FFg for who-can-spot-my-hits loads.
Powderbags, SASS # 13755L Posted June 13, 2015 Posted June 13, 2015 They are out there. McCandless has got the info, and first right to purchase my inventory and mold if he chooses to do so. http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/140a.jpg.html http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/DSC04318.jpg.html http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/DSC04315.jpg.html Bags
McCandless Posted June 14, 2015 Author Posted June 14, 2015 They are out there. McCandless has got the info, and first right to purchase my inventory and mold if he chooses to do so. http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/140a.jpg.html http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/DSC04318.jpg.html http://s1057.photobucket.com/user/powderbags/media/DSC04315.jpg.html Bags I'll take 'em. PM me with your particulars. Thanks! Duc
Blackey Cole Posted June 14, 2015 Posted June 14, 2015 Iirc I bought my last bullets from cowboy Desparado bullets. Bear creak are good also. I just been shooting the Desparado bullets since I got the guns. It's a .401 dia. Not positive on the wt but they load very well for me using either new or fired Starline brass.
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