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Tully Mars

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    Gold Country H3G, River City Regulators, Jedi Gunfighter # 311

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  1. If you don't mind a check, I'll take the 44-40 case gauge. Thanks, Tully
  2. Flanigan Flats, I can part with two to three pounds. Not sure when we can meet, I need to come see Jasper. Tully
  3. Buck, I'll take them. See you here. Tully
  4. Old Fashions are in the forecast!
  5. Here's another for cut down 45-70 and 45-70 dies for an original 76' in 45-60. Lee case trimmer with the corrected length for 45-60 makes quick work of it. Tully
  6. It gives added feeling of security. Mine has been in two different trucks, both with shells with no windows. Currently it's mounted on a cargo glide so the entire vault comes out. I did this to have dead space under the vault so I can use the tailgate to work on guns, yet still open the drawers. We've stayed in hotels with the guns locked up. I feel comfortable in knowing people can't see what is in the bed, if the vault was visible, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Cons, they take up a lot of space, however I can still sleep in the bed if needed. Tully
  7. It's been years ago, but using essentially the same load I did quite well at 200 yard long range. Marlin 24" Cowboy, Marble sight, 250 RNFP and 8.0 grains of Unique. give it a try.
  8. Phantom, The proposed rules aren't what folks shooting WB in the past are looking for. You say it's a dead game, I disagree, it's just not a game for everyone. So what? Cowboy isn't a game for everyone either. I've traveled Arizona, Oregon, Nevada, Idaho and here in California to shoot WB. Guess what? Folks like they way it is. Matches are attended well, maybe not to Cowboy levels, but decent levels. Those telling you it's dead, don't shoot or attend matches. The last two years of WB at EOT were the largest ever. However the original shooters numbers were capped, then increased as the match approached. Had they not have been capped, could attendance have been higher? Will you now shoot WB? Support the game like your supporting it here on the wire? I doubt it, you'll just continue stirring the pot. Tully
  9. This will be my first time in not shooting WB at EOT or Winter Range. I suspect others will be making the same decision. The Arizona Territorial Company of Rough Riders do and outstanding job of putting on EOT and I wish them a successful shoot. Tully
  10. 2009-2011. I don't recall the year.
  11. From the stand point of running matches, I've had many people over the years say, "if only they allowed 38's, if only they allowed 9 mm), I'd come out. When they are told to come out and shoot what they have, they find another excuse. If you truly want to shoot, talk to your local match director, if they won't let you shoot at monthly's I'd be surprised. Folks running WB matches want you to come shoot, the shooters want you to come shoot. Regarding the rifle, if the PF remained, it would be a non-issue. Thanks Two Dot, JFN, and Marshal Fire, for bringing that point up. Tully
  12. Unless its a shared bay with another posse, the TO should be watching the timer and adjusting distance if the timer is not picking up shots. Regardless which gun is shot last.
  13. View from a WB shooter, match director, former WB Ambassador/RO instructor. Gold Country Wild Bunch (GCWB) is the oldest, standalone WB club in SASS. Sutter Lawman started the club with the inception of Wild Bunch moving from side match to a shooting game. A lot has happened in the last 8 months regarding WB’s direction that will never see the light of day, much of the irritation from WB folks is due to those circumstances. I won’t be going into details. Despite my feelings on the new changes, I love SASS and its shooters. This is my 22nd year in SASS, I’ve enjoyed it immensely. My wife and I have met lifelong friends while shooting SASS in various areas of the country, and we will continue to meet more. Regarding the “Open” category many clubs such as GCWB have always allowed folks to shoot whatever guns they would like. The intention was to bring what you have and try the game out, if you like it move towards buying the correct equipment as you continue to shoot open. Speaking of GCWB, the open category has brought in two shooters over the years. Typically, it’s used by avid WB shooters saving components or wanting to shoot something different. From my experience the open category will not grow the sport. Regarding the rifle, 38 vs .40 caliber, there’s a few reasons the .38 rifle is the most popular rifle in SASS, one it’s less expensive to reload, two it is faster to shoot. Yes, it can be argued that some can run it as fast, but under Wild bunch power factor rules it’s not likely it will compete head-to-head on speed with a 38. What do you say to the shooter who went out and bought the correct equipment and has been a die-hard WB shooter? Buy a 38? It's my belief the market is going to become saturated with .40 caliber and larger rifles. It’s true many shoot them within SASS, but Classic Cowboy is the only category requiring it. If I’m correct, that’s a disservice to those SASS members who for 12 years played the game the way it was written, and will have difficulties selling off their rifles. The financial report, I do not buy the numbers. I’ll mention two items that have me baffled in the financial report, sanctioning fees(losses on awards), and RO instruction losses. Here’s the wording on the WB Championship Application: Here’s what SASS supplies for the fees rendered. SASS provides 4 conchos, Modern, Traditional, Lady Modern, Lady Traditional, this is a $200 value. And $200 in gift certificates. In the past a shooter could use the certificate to renew their SASS membership. This is a total of $400 provided by SASS. Using simple math, if a club only has 20 shooters, they owe SASS $100. This is a big loss for SASS. Is that loss caused by WB or SASS? It’s SASS’s fee structure causing the loss, fix that, don’t give conchos, and certificates or increase the fees accordingly. Yet WB gets the blame. Regarding losses from RO courses. Beyond RO pins, SASS has never provided me with materials for an RO course. I know SASS will print SHB and send them to the requesting instructor. Most clubs ask the students to print the SHB and bring it with them to class. If SASS is losing money by printing and mailing SHB’s, who’s to blame for the lost money? By the way the same process is followed by cowboy RO classes, it would make sense that SASS loses money on mailing and printing SHB's for Cowboy as well. Speaking for myself, I love the game as we play it currently. Gold Country Wild Bunch has taken a poll of its shooters, the majority prefer to continue shooting under the current rules. At GCWB we’ll listen to our shooters. Apparently, SASS polled folks on the direction of WB, yet not one WB Ambassador, ROC member or WB shooter I’ve spoken to was polled. Match Directors, be it Cowboy, WB, IDPA, whatever the shooting sport, we do it because we love it, we do it for our members, because without us, matches don’t happen. We don’t do it for SASS, we are not SASS’s revenue system. If something sours us on the game, interest is lost, matches are lost, clubs are lost. Again, I can only speak for myself, I’m not going to dedicate my time and money to run a club by rules I disagree with. Anyone involved in running Cowboy, WB matches isn't making money on it, most are in the hole each month. Take a moment at the next match you attend and thank those folks for their dedication to the sport, and you the shooter. This is not an apple-to-apple compression, take Classic Cowboy or B Western, heck even Plainsman side match. Go to those individuals and tell them they can shoot what they want, dress how they like, and we understand the BP smoke obscures the targets, from now on you can shoot smokeless in Plainsman. I’m being sarcastic, however if you shoot those categories or enjoy Plainsman, how would you take that discussion? I’m following the post, I’ll most likely not make another post though. Respectfully, Tully Mars, 40161 GCWB President
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