Tully Mars

Last year I bought a 750 to compliment my 650 and have one in LPP and one in SPP. I promptly sold the 650 and bought another 750, I liked it that much. There is nothing wrong with the 650, I prefer the primer set up on the 750 and it does seem a bit smoother. Ike if you are interested in a 650, Sunrise Bill is bringing one next week to the California State WB Championship to sell. I can put you in touch with him if you'd like? The tool heads are interchangeable, I don't recall having to make adjustments when placing them on the 750. Tully

I sent you both a PM. Tully

Try Track of the Wolf https://www.trackofthewolf.com/

Your wife is fine shooting DD in the GF category. It's to bad that someone stirred her wrong at the EOT side match.

July Smith, I've reached out to PaleWolf for clarification. It might take a bit of time, but he will get back to us. My argument for the 1862 Colt/Uberti is it was a true pocket pistol of the time period, and with a 4" barrel it meets the SHB definition of a PP. I interpret, "Pocket pistols may not be used as or converted to main match revolvers." As long as the pistol isn't used in the main match, of which it was used as a PP in the side match, there is no issue. We'll see what he says. If he doesn't respond here, I'll post his response. Tully

The .36 caliber, 5 shot Uberti or Colt 1862 (not the Pietta) with a 4" barrel meets the definition of a pocket pistol. It's essentially an 1849 in 36 caliber. A pocket pistol is a small frame, fixed sight, pre-1900 design revolver having a barrel length of four inches or less. Pocket pistols must be .31 caliber or larger. In regards to smaller parts, ours have shot several Frontiersmen and Plainsman matches over the years without issues. Tully

McCandless, We're in agreement that the 1862 can be used as a main match pistol. What I don't understand is, "Pocket pistols may not be used as or converted to main match revolvers." This would imply that an 1862 that was used at a PP side match, could not be used in the match. I'm certain there is a logical reason, but it escapes me. The above quote is from the SHB regarding Pocket Pistols. I do not have access to the page number. Tully

Taylors sells a 3 1/2" barrel for the 62', unfortunately they are not in stock. My wife shoots 62's in Frontiersman, I had hoped to find a replacement short barrel for pocket pistol side matches. Yes you can cut the barrel to 4" and have a legal pocket pistol. I've never understood why they can't be used as a main match revolver either. Five shot 1862's have been used in Frontiersman or Plainsman without issue using the hammer notch on the cylinder without issue, why couldn't a 4" pistol be used for both? Does anyone know? Tully

I needed to add to the arbor as well, Larson's articles are a great help. I love shooting my Richard Masson's, but they don't get the use of my other pistols.

Prepared or not, you never know, sometimes there's just more to shoot then we expected or heavy KD's appear. Shooting a popular caliber opens up options of loaned or bought ammo.

Something else to consider, if you go to a shoot and for some reason need to buy or borrow ammo. .38's, 45LC can be found, after that it starts becoming difficult.

44 Special is what I wish I had started with. I works for CC and Wild Bunch, 44 Russian can be used with a Smith Shop carrier for less recoil loads. I started with 45 LC, currently .38's or 44-40. When my wife started shooting we went to .38's. Regarding BP, while it's true the 44-40 or other bottle necked cartridges are prefect and do keep the action cleaner, .38's with APP do just fine, whereas .38's with real BP gum up quickly. Tully

I've been pleased with the Wheeler set I have. Tully

Check Gunbroker, look under Taylors/Uberti or Cimarron/Uberti. Recently I was considering finding another 62' as was looking, prices were decent. Tully

Try it and see. I've used the 45 Colt for 44-40's on the 650, same as Kid Rich. Measurements are fine and dandy, but if it works, it works. Tully

A few years ago I picked up a used Cobra .38 special with holster, it was everything the video posted by Larson said. However I changed springs using ruger springs that I had at home, now it's a nice little derringer, cocks easily, decent trigger pull. Would I recommend buying one? Not really. Pretty sure they design them to be difficult to cock and pull the trigger for safety reasons considering the size and how they are likely to be carried. I did not hear the guy in the video saying to go to half cock before loading. if you don't put the hammer in half cock, one firing pin is extended and the round is being closed onto the firing pin and the round can go off when closing the barrel quickly. Derringer's are dangerous little guns.

I just tried RWS 1075 plus on my 51's with Slix nipples, they worked great with a heavier hammer spring then needed for Rem 10's. It did take more force to seat them fully, but all went off on the first hammer strike. Less force was needed to seat them on the Track of the Wolf nipples. It's interesting that several folks posting here have different experiences with cap and nipple combos.

Hi PPG, I'm not going to get into the ghost gun/C&B discussion other than to say it's conversion cylinders are commonly uses within SASS and sold as parts. Colorado Coffinmaker's first post is great information. Here's the reason I'm responding: I noticed you're from Carmichael, I'm one of the match directors at Diamond Dick's Cowboy Town at the Sacramento Valley Shooting Center. If you have an interest in coming out to shoot Cowboy or Wild Bunch, please let me know or check out https://cagunslingers.com/ for more information. Thanks, Tully

All my C&B's have cap rakes as well.

Provided you have specialty nipples, such as Slix or Treso's I wouldn't modify them. If they don't work for the cap you are currently using, pull them and label them for another day when Remington #10's are available. The above chart provided by SD is helpful, but in my experience each brand of caps likes a specific nipple, despite the measurements provided. Uberti nipples seem to work well with both Remington 10's and CCI 11's. Track of the Wolf nipples work well in my Pietta's with CCI 11's, but in my experience they need to be chamfered at the top edge to allow the cap to seat to it's maximum depth so the cap goes off with the first hammer strike. With my Pietta's I needed more hammer spring as well with the CCI's, I've bought some RWS 1075 plus, but I haven't tried them out yet other than to feel how they fit on the Track of the Wolf nipples, they do not easily seat all the way down. I've also had luck with turning the nipple diameter down on Pietta nipples for CCI 10's. Currently the RWS 1075 seem to be the cap that can be found. Over the last few weeks I've been experimenting with nipple and cap combo's in order to be prepared for the 2022 Western Frontiersman Territorial in June and be able to provide assistance to registered shooters who might need direction as to what supplies are out there and what I've found to work. Tully

Provided testing continues in a positive direction, The 2022 Western Frontiersman Territorial will have a few unique side matches, one being a shooting clay birds out of the air with your pistol! Who hasn't wanted to shoot something out of the air with their pistol? We've been experimenting using homemade pistol shot loads for cartridge and C&B's. So far we are extremely excited about this side match, 5 birds, 5 shots. Considering this is a Frontiersman match our hope is to go completely C&B. The inspiration came from the movie Unforgiven when English Bob shot Pheasants from the train car. Tully 1439724590_PheasantShooting.mp4

We're looking forward to WB on Friday and Cowboy Saturday! See you all soon! Tully

I have the RCBS and have had the same experience as Turquoise Bill. Tully

Mernickle was making them at one point. Might want to try them.

A buddy asked that I help him install Shotgun Boogies spring kit into his Wranglers. They are seem really nice, once the kit is installed. You do need to make tool to remove the firing pin retainer, the firing pin spring needs to be replaced in order for the kit to work. I used a screw drive blade and modified it with a Dremel to fit. No dog in this fight, just answering the question from my perspective. After handling his Wranglers, I'm considering a set for myself. Ruger Wrangler Spring Kit – SBGW (sbgwllc.myshopify.com) Tully