Assassin

Wolf Tracker are you planning on banging steel targets or are you looking to precision shoot on paper? Most long range pistol cal. matches I've seen are just 5 or 10 shots at a 100 yard steel plate. Match ammo works for me. Don't over think it, I've seen too many shooters grab hotter loads or aim too high, which equates to inconsistent shooting. I shoot dead center at 100 yards and slightly over the top of the target at 200 and have had good success. I'm just using 105 grain 38's at 950 fps.

I agree with you MM, we are also lucky here in Wyoming to have the freedom that we enjoy. NY has become overcivilized and unfortunately freedom is diminished there.

Pretty sure Thunder Beast did the installation on these rifles. One of the guys there ordered three cans. Had some high end guns and great shooters. Way beyond my long range abilities. They set up the shots and adjustments all I did was put the cross hairs on the targets and squeeze the trigger.

I shot several suppressed guns recently that were considered professional guns. Used by guys that don't exist. Not the suppressors made with washers and rubber rings in a machined tube. The suppressors were attached to the muzzle breaks and worked on 308, 223, 7mm, and other calibers that I have no idea what they were. One manufacturer was Thunder Beast made here in Cheyenne, there were a couple different types. they all worked well. We were hitting targets at 700 yards with 308 and 7mm, very quiet and little recoil. The muzzle break and suppressor plus the $200 fee totaled around $1500.00 per rifle. Suppressors are legal for hunting in Wyoming.

How much are those permits? Sounds like a money maker for the state. New Yorkers need to revolt! Considering NY was part of the original 13 colonies and stood up against the tyranny of England it's a damn shame the citizens of a once great state allowed this to happen. The thought police would lock me up in NY.

They give really nice rings to the Superbowl winners. Cool rings would be nice, getting all the sizes right would be a pain. I'm tired of buckles.

As I said in a previous post, SASS needs to make members "want" to join and pay their annual dues not "have" to pay them. Part of that process is our job as senior members. SASS needs to step up advertising and marketing, it's virtually nonexistent and has been for several years. Now the printed Chronicle is quarterly, there are fees for shooting state level and higher matches, club affiliation fees, and annual dues have increased. Just what is being done with the additional fees, these fees did not exist 10-15 years back when we had more members. Personally, I think folks would be okay with them if we saw an influx of new shooters. Why isn't SASS advertising like they use to? They use to have ads in all the gun magazines and NRA magazines. Perhaps, a nationwide membership drive or some discounts if current members can sponsor a new shooter. Throw out enough ideas and eventually something will stick. However, it's up to SASS HQ to lead the way. If the numbers continue to plummet annual dues will increase and the burden will be on all of us "die hard" cowboys. Seems like the lower the membership the higher the dues.

Sheriff Pack Wolf wants the 9mm conversion kit. He asked me to give you his email : Paul McDonald paul2927@msn.com Thanks, Assassin

You are starting your 6th year with number 97501 and we are just getting into numbers in the 104000's. So, SASS has grown by 6500 shooters in 6 years +/-. Wow, there is obviously some serious issues when it comes to marketing. Back in the early 2000's we were growing by 10-12k per year. Just what happened? I guarantee the NRA numbers have continued to grow, along with guns sales in general. I don't believe that age has much to do with growth. The guys I know work their butt's off putting on matches. I think many of us do our part to support SASS. Just what is SASS doing to advertise on a national level? Has anyone seen an advertisement in a magazine or television? Henry runs an ad during prime time on Fox News. Where are our non-profit dollars going? I see that Misty and others are hosting a booth at the Eastern Sportsman's Show, hopefully we will see numbers of folks that visit the booth and sign up, along with an uptick in participation in that area.

That had to be a tough role for Chuck Connors. In real life he was quite the athlete and I doubt many of those "Hollywood Icons" would have a chance against him in a real altercation.

My dad's brother is 23 years older than my dad. Dad's niece is a couple months older than him. He just calls her by her name. I called her aunt although she is a 1st cousin.

I've had good experiences.

Ernest T. Bass

The Wire is a great marketing tool. Personally, I would not want to force folks that just want to visit the website to join, there are many who just look at the wire to see what's happening and it would be a disservice to shut them out. We have a few locals that shoot with us occasionally that are non-members, they were ready to join and the dues went up, that's when they decided it cost too much. The best marketing tool was the old chronicle, in the old format. Now it is gone and we have a new model, although shiny, ii's not what I prefer. The digital version is a dismal failure and few bother opening the file. SASS has dropped the ball on advertisement and marketing, and it's left up to the few of us left to pay the price for lack of members. I work pretty hard at promoting CAS, running matches, setting up matches, building stuff, etc. SASS needs to figure out how to make folks "want" to join not "have" to join. Obviously, the current marketing plan is not working, and we all need to focus on how to get new members and get old members to return. Perhaps, we should look back at the timeline when things started dropping off and learn from the mistakes made in order to improve our numbers. What happened in 2005 that caused numbers to become static? We were growing by 10k members a year in the early 2000's and now we might get 2-3k new members per year. It was a hoot watching SASS grow and meeting all the new shooters, I'd love to see those days again.

While you're looking for parts I broke the loading gate on my Miroku 73 today.

We're looking forward to seeing you and your brothers again. Should warm up some before you get here in June. Keep an eye on our website Hamley is setting up the registration so we can register electronically. Should be ready to roll next week. Assassin

Dave, you are welcome to come up and shoot with us. Regardless of what you have heard, we don't bite.

If the so called journalists are overly emotional; crying or celebrating, they probably are not giving us the whole story, only their side.

Belle is disappointed you won't be here . 1100 miles is 100 miles closer than our regional shoot.

I have plenty of saw dust from the saw mill and planer. We were thinking about making logs by packing the saw dust in a steel pipe with my hydraulic log splitter.

We are shooting. The range is dry and we are looking at 40 degrees and partly cloudy skies. 6 close stages and there will be movement, none of that stand and deliver boredom. Hell On Wheels meeting after the match. Assassin

Our club is also 100% SASS members. We opted to give SASS $100. I can understand that some clubs have little money and can't afford to pay additional fees. As for state level and above shoots, members must be current in order to participate, and a list of shooters is sent to SASS HQ in order to comply. Many don't shoot at SASS sanctioned events and clubs don't check or care if shooters are current. Everyone is not "too cheap" to pay dues they just can't afford the dues or can use that money towards other family obligations. To me it sounds like an elitist to challenge someone's financial situation. There are black market shoots and clubs on the rise due to the lack of compassion from SASS through increased fees.

Our club sent SASS $100, the fee depends on the percentage of club members that are active SASS members. There is really no way to audit the number of active members. I know $50-100 bucks isn't much. To many clubs it's the principal and they just bailed. I'm pretty sure there is a big annual event that is not affiliated and it is well attended by non-SASS members and current members alike.

I made the proposal for a dollar per shooter go to SASS from every monthly match, then non-SASS and life members would pay for the privilege of having SASS affiliation. Never got a response from HQ. The appearance of beating up on small clubs was a turn off and many smaller clubs just bailed on SASS along with their members. Alienating clubs by overcharging them and not recognizing their hard work will be the beginning of many non-SASS affiliated shooting events, it's already happening, and there is much talk. The $5.00 per shooter surcharge was not a good idea either. I recall when SASS had less than 10K members, a quality quarterly magazine and lower annual fees. We have over 3 times as many active shooters and they want more and more $$$, and shooters had to beg to get a real magazine after the digital version failed to attract advertisers. One of our local clubs had over 1000 shooters this year, several others had 300-400. A dollar each is a much better money maker than charging clubs a set $100 fee. Pretty sure there are 3-4 fewer Wyoming clubs than before the fees were implemented.

We run a Long Range pocket pistol and derringer side match at Hell On Wheels, it's around 25 yards. Not sure if we would allow a derringer with 6 inch barrels.