WTC—- Live Rounds Left In A Revolver

[Griff]

18 hours ago, Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L said:

1. Assume he started with hammers down on the first live round...(penalty from the get go, but we have all seen it happen). He fires 4 rounds from each gun, the hammers would be down on the empty chamber.

Ixnay:

1. Assume he started with hammers down on the first live round...(penalty from the get go, but we have all seen it happen). He fires 4 rounds from each gun, the hammers would be down on the 5th round, now expended.  He'd have to cock & pull the trigger for a 5th time to reach the empty chamber.

 

Yul, do ya think that after reflection, the TO thought that shootin' gunfighter constituted "unsafe firearm handling?"  🙂

[Texas Maverick]

1 hour ago, Totes Magoats said:

Ya gotta tip the TO before the stage and in cash! 

 

There are some double cockers out there that are really hard to count for.  There's a smokey double cocker around here that falls into that category.  I think folks don't yell "one more" for fear they miscounted and don't want to stop the shooter.   But the TO needs to know which rules apply when the count is off and unfired rounds are found.

 

Totes

Yeah and with all his smoke you can't even see the targets half the time. He is very hard to spot for. LOL   No names mentioned.

 

TM

[Yul Lose]

9 minutes ago, Griff said:

Ixnay:

1. Assume he started with hammers down on the first live round...(penalty from the get go, but we have all seen it happen). He fires 4 rounds from each gun, the hammers would be down on the 5th round, now expended.  He'd have to cock & pull the trigger for a 5th time to reach the empty chamber.

 

Yul, do ya think that after reflection, the TO thought that shootin' gunfighter constituted "unsafe firearm handling?"  🙂

Not sure about his feelings on gun fighters and unsafe gun handling, but he did equate his decision on the SDQ with arriving at the UT with a round in the chamber not on the carrier in a rifle and based his reasoning on that. I had a short exchange with him and chose not to escalate the situation. I was going to pack up and head home but decided to stay and finish the match, but didn’t stay for the awards.

[Dogmeat Dad, SASS #48563L]

37 minutes ago, Griff said:

Ixnay:

1. Assume he started with hammers down on the first live round...(penalty from the get go, but we have all seen it happen). He fires 4 rounds from each gun, the hammers would be down on the 5th round, now expended.  He'd have to cock & pull the trigger for a 5th time to reach the empty chamber.

 

Yul, do ya think that after reflection, the TO thought that shootin' gunfighter constituted "unsafe firearm handling?"  🙂

 

You are correct.  I had meant (at least in my mind) to say that he cocks and pulls the trigger 5 times in each gun, thus getting to 10 "shots", and when he got two clicks he assumed he was empty and done.  That will teach me to post stuff after my coffee has worn off!

 

It is always interesting to me how these things happen.  I have seen folks get the TriFecta, a miss, a P, and a safety, usually with the rifle, a bunch of times.  The one that I find is a killer for Gunfighters is a 5 shot Nevada Sweep on 3 targets, starting on the center target, then repeat.  Doing that mental "Double Tap" on the center target can really throw a monkey wrench in works!

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

3 hours ago, Yul Lose said:

Not sure about his feelings on gun fighters and unsafe gun handling, but he did equate his decision on the SDQ with arriving at the UT with a round in the chamber not on the carrier in a rifle and based his reasoning on that. I had a short exchange with him and chose not to escalate the situation. I was going to pack up and head home but decided to stay and finish the match, but didn’t stay for the awards.

 

TO might benefit from some remedial retraining regarding the difference between a revolver and a long gun...IMO.

- Inadvertently leaving unfired rounds in a revolver is a miss. (Unless the round is under the hammer, then the penalty is a Stage Disqualification). 
- A live round left in the chamber of a long gun carries a Stage Disqualification penalty. 

SHB p.28 - Ammunition Conventions

[Sedalia Dave]

7 hours ago, Flying W Ramrod said:

The TO should have shown the Shooter where the penalty is found, in the SHB, and not been a hard a**.

 

TO was not being a Hard a**. He made a bad call which we will all do sooner or later.  

 

The TO's failure was when the call was questioned they DID NOT refer to the SHB or the Pocket RO card.

[Hoss]

12 hours ago, Texas Maverick said:

Yeah and with all his smoke you can't even see the targets half the time. He is very hard to spot for. LOL   No names mentioned.

 

TM

All I’m sayin is he married better than his wife did!  HAAARRRUUUUMPHHHH