watab kid Posted January 28 Posted January 28 it might be harder teaching the 4H ers to do it in a controlled manner but the concept is easy and with care so is the execution , a little oversight goes a long way at the loading table which i would expect in that environment Quote
John Barleycorn, SASS #76982 Posted January 29 Posted January 29 On 1/27/2025 at 9:27 PM, WadeP said: Harder than you think it should be with these little guns with their free spin and no half-cock. We have six in rotation at our 4H Western Heritage club. Same as grown-up CAS but all guns as staged. No drawing from the holster. We load one, skip one, load four then rotate the cylinder one click forward by hand. We found that even if you did everything right, sometimes when you cocked and decocked, it wouldn't rotate all the way and your first trigger pull would fall on the empty chamber. Each of these revolvers probably has at least 2000 rounds through them with no problems. However, we found they do NOT like certain low velocity target ammo and will keyhole badly. I sent a pair back to Ruger with test targets and detailed notes on six different kinds of ammo. Their response was, "We fired them with CCI mini-mag and demonstrated acceptable accuracy. Use CCI mini-mag." What low velocity ammo key holed? Thank you 1 Quote
WadeP Posted January 30 Posted January 30 Keyholed: CCI Standard, Federal Gold Medal orange box, Eley Tenex red No keyhole: CCI Mini-mag and Winchester Wildcat. They like the high velocity stuff. 1 1 Quote
SHOOTIN FOX Posted January 30 Posted January 30 On 1/26/2025 at 1:29 PM, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Wranglers.... Didn't Tex have a low opinion of people who wore them? Or are you talking about a pistol made by Ruger? Until someone pointed out he was wearing Wranglers. 2 Quote
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted January 31 Posted January 31 On 1/29/2025 at 7:50 PM, WadeP said: Keyholed: CCI Standard, Federal Gold Medal orange box, Eley Tenex red No keyhole: CCI Mini-mag and Winchester Wildcat. They like the high velocity stuff. In other words, they work best with the ammo that is not SASS-legal. Quote
Eyesa Horg Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I haven't, at least so far, had any keyholing. I've even shot some old Russian steel cased junk....no 2 rounds have the same amount of powder!! Quote
Red Eye Jim Posted January 31 Posted January 31 I will note that Winchester white box and Federal Champion (Blue Box) can get a little "fidgety" when loading into mine but could totally be because they're coming out of my Mark IV after not firing for a light strike because it gets Finkey about the ammo after about 500 rounds or so until I clean it again. The Remington Thunderbolts I use for "competition" (My indoor range has a monthly "Lead Therapy" match drawing for prizes that I use the Mark IV for one of my entries.) doesn't have a problem loading. Quote
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