USS Santa Fe (CL-60)

[Subdeacon Joe]

USS Santa Fe (CL-60) rolling about 35 degrees to starboard as she rides out a typhoon encountered in the South China Sea, probably on 18-19 December 1944.

Note that her forward 6"47 gun turret is trained to one side to avoid shipping water through its gun ports.

 

 

[Sedalia Dave]

I wonder if they trained the guns to starboard when she rolled to port?

[Ozark Huckleberry]

Is what I think I'm seeing -- what I'm seeing?

 

Is the starboard gunwale actually submerged?

 

DAY-umm!

[Charlie Harley, #14153]

1 hour ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Is what I think I'm seeing -- what I'm seeing?

 

Is the starboard gunwale actually submerged?

 

DAY-umm!

Looks like it to me.

[Subdeacon Joe]

4 hours ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

Is what I think I'm seeing -- what I'm seeing?

 

Is the starboard gunwale actually submerged?

 

DAY-umm!

 

Yep.  I did a copy and paste of it in another forum and it pasted as "may show an image of a submarine."  

 

Class and type

Cleveland-class light cruiser

Displacement

Standard: 11,744 long tons (11,932 t)

Full load: 14,131 long tons (14,358 t)

Length

610 ft 1 in (185.95 m)

Beam

66 ft 4 in (20.22 m)

Draft

24 ft 6 in (7.47 m)

Installed power

4 × Babcock & Wilcox boilers

100,000 shp (75,000 kW)

Propulsion

4 × steam turbines

4 × screw propellers

Speed

32.5 knots (60.2 km/h; 37.4 mph)

Range

11,000 nmi (20,000 km; 13,000 mi) at 15 kn (28 km/h; 17 mph)

Complement

1,285 officers and enlisted

Armament

12 × 6 in (152 mm) Mark 16 guns

12 × 5 in (127 mm)/38 caliber guns

24 × 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors anti-aircraft guns

21 × 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns

Armor

Belt: 3.5–5 in (89–127 mm)

Deck: 2 in (51 mm)

Barbettes: 6 in (152 mm)

Turrets: 6 in (152 mm)

Conning Tower: 5 in (127 mm)

Aircraft carried

4 × floatplanes

Aviation facilities

2 × stern catapults

[Ozark Huckleberry]

18 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Yep.  I didva copy and paste ofbit in another forum and it pasted as "may show an image of a submarine."

I think there’s an SSN named Santa Fe. 

[Ozark Huckleberry]

9 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

I wonder if they trained the guns to starboard when she rolled to port?

I doubt they swung the guns in response to the rolls. 
 

More likely to avoid shipping water from the bow submarining. 

[Subdeacon Joe]

 

10 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

I wonder if they trained the guns to starboard when she rolled to port?

 

My guess is that she was on a heading that kept the storm on her port beam.  Or maybe port quarter.  

[Sedalia Dave]

58 minutes ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

I think there’s an SSN named Santa Fe. 

 

Yep

 

USS Santa Fe (SSN-763)

[Sedalia Dave]

1 hour ago, Ozark Huckleberry said:

I doubt they swung the guns in response to the rolls. 
 

More likely to avoid shipping water from the bow submarining. 

 

6 minutes ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

 

 

My guess is that she was on a heading that kept the storm on her port beam.  Or maybe port quarter.  

 

 

Finally found an answer as to how fast the turret could move in Azimuth. 4 degrees a second is not very fast.

 

Quote

The guns could be elevated from −5 degrees to +45 degrees, moving at up to 12 degrees per second. The turrets could rotate about 300 degrees at about 4 degrees per second and could be fired back beyond the beam, sometimes called firing "over the shoulder".

 

[Cypress Sun]

 

I don't care which way the guns are turned, the area around me isn't gonna smell too good and I'm gonna be a nasty shade of green.

[Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474]

I read somewhere that two or three destroyers were lost in that storm or one around that time.

 

Yep, looked it up: The Hull; Spence and Monaghan were lost with all hands and a number of other ships wee damaged, including 5 aircraft carriers.

Bless their souls+

[Abilene Slim SASS 81783]

10 minutes ago, Cold Lake Kid, SASS # 51474 said:

I read somewhere that two or three destroyers were lost in that storm or one around that time.

 

Yep, looked it up: The Hull; Spence and Monaghan were lost with all hands and a number of other ships wee damaged, including 5 aircraft carriers.

Bless their souls+

Yup, all because of Bull-Headed Halsey who ordered they maintain formation during a hurricane, - one he could have avoided with a change of course.