H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) Not too long ago I shared a post about my Colt revolvers and asked people to do the same. Some did. (Huzzah!) But I limited my post specifically to real Colts and did not include clones. Well, I was thinking today about the clones and thought it would be fun to share then as well. (By "clones" I mean things that are supposed to be a copy, of sorts, of the Colt SAA, not things that are very similar like the Remington or Ruger.) But I also thought just sharing some clones was kinda "why botherish." But then I realized that there are almost as many different "safeties" on these various clones, or other differences that might be fun to look at. So I figured, "why not?" And with that in mind, I shall now send in the clones. Like with my real Colts, I'll do it by caliber. We will start with .44 Special. The top pistol is an Alder Italy Model 1873, imported by EMF. The bottom is an Uberti Cimmaron. The Alder has got what I consider to be the most offensive, and weirdest, safety I've ever seen on a clone; a kind of rotating cylinder pin. You can tell that it's in the "fire" position by that red dot. This is also why I hate it so much, it's just plain ugly. You can't see it well, but the base of the cylinder pin has a kind of a nub on it. When it's in the fire position, it'll fit in this notch on the hammer, allowing the gun to go bang. When it's in the safe position, it blocks the hammer from going all the way down. This safety might actually work, but I'd not recommend it. Trying to rotate it around to the firing position, while cocked, or at least on half cock, is a fumble and stumble procedure. Best to ignore it's existence and just carry 5. It is however, a very easy thing to fix. A Colt cylinder pin will fit. The Uberti has a strange feature, I don't know what Uberti calls it, but I refer to it as the "Safety Notch Block," and it seems to be the most common safety I see on Uberti made guns. I am sure almost all of us have seen this little switch like thingee on the back of an Uberti hammer. And this is what it looks like from the front of the hammer. And there is a hole in the frame the same shape as the block on the hammer. When the gun is on the first, or safety notch click, this block drops down into the hole, preventing the firing pin from being able to go forward. Of all the safeties I've seen on the clones, this is the only one that seems to function practically, and would thus actually be a viable one for actual use. Not that I would, but it does seem that it actually would be safe. A little more difficult to get rid of, you'd have to replace the hammer with one that doesn't have the block. Don't think it's worth the trouble. Here's my .44-40 clone.... This is an American Arms Uberti. It has the Safety Notch Block safety. Up next, .44 Magnum. The top is another American Arms Uberti with the Safety Notch Block thing. As you can see, it is slightly "upscaled" to, I assume, make it stronger. In the middle is an original Great Western Revolver, which is also the original clone, and depending on who you ask and believe, the first revolver to hit the market in .44 Magnum. Interestingly, it's not scaled up any that I can see when eyeball comparing it to my Colts. The bottom is a Virginian Dragoon, which seems to be more of a copy of the New Frontier than a standard SAA, and it is even more beefed up than the Uberti up top. Here's an interesting feature of the Great Western... No firing pin on the hammer, giving it a very unique and strange look. The firing pin is in the frame. Oddly, this is NOT a safety. With the hammer down, you can see the pin being forward to contact a theoretical cartridge. I have no idea why Great Western made this change, and can see no way to get rid of the feature. The Dragoon has something very similar going on. Again, no firing pin on the hammer.... ...because it's in the frame. Again, not a safety though. Instead, it has one of these... This is a dual position cylinder pin. In the rear position, the gun goes bang. In the front, it causes the pin to stick out the back of the frame, preventing the gun from firing. It works, but I'd not use it. To much of a hassle to "deactivate," and when you put it back in after cleaning, make sure you put it on the correct position. And finally, my .45's The top is a Uberti Cimarron, with the dual position cylinder pin type safety. Next is another American Arms Uberti, (Whatever happened to American Arms?) with the Safety Notch Block. The third gun is an Armi San Marco set up to look like a GI pistol, right down to the US on the frame. It has the dual position cylinder pin safety. And last, but by no means, least, is my (in)famous Big Iron. It's an Armi San Marco that started life as a generic 5.5" barrelled revolver. It also has the dual position cylinder pin safety. Here's pic of it... It's a little different from the Virginian, but you can see the similarity. I'll go on record that, in spite of it's being too impractical to actually use, I find this to be the least "offensive" of all the safeties to be found on the clones. Not only is it not noticeable unless you really look for it, it is easily done away with by replacing it with a Colt pin, which fits. If an SAA type revolver MUST have a safety, this is the kind it should have. And those are my clones. Curiously, I don't have anything made by Pietta. Has anyone encountered a clone with a different kind of safety than what I've seen here? I'd be curious to know about them. Or were/are there any other makers of clones? As soon as I type that, USFA and Standard Manufacturing come to mind, but I don't have any of those either. Anyone else want to share their clones? Edited January 2 by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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