Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 A couple years ago during a thread on legal/illegal ways to carry a reload on your body, I posted a picture of a rifle round tucked into the gunbelt keeper. Official word: Not Legal. Okay, so now another. Today I was using a belt with no loops that belonged to the late Wildcat Bob. I needed a way to carry a 32-20 rifle reload, so I did like the picture shows. An empty 20ga takes up the extra space, similar to the way a rawhide strip wrapped through .45 loops lets you carry .38's. Legal? I know I could sew one of the loops partially closed so a cartridge would fit, but this worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 It was a quick idea and worked. I'm thinking a better idea would be a thick strip of leather folded and tucked into the loop to take up the extra space. I can't' imagine that not being legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 The only thing that I can find close is from the SHB pg 3. Under Cartridge Belts, Bandoleers, and Pouches: - Cartridge loops must not have a metal or plastic liner. However, the entire loop may be made of metal. Under Ammunition Belts and Loops: Shotgun Ammo loops must conform to the shooters contour (i.e., not tilt out from the belt). Instead of leather folded and tucked behind the cartridge pushing it away from the body, use a piece of leather to encircle the cartridge and keep it vertical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Page 3 of the shooters handbook. Rifle/revolver loops cannot be affixed to shotgun loops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Rick Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sarge said: Page 3 of the shooters handbook. Rifle/revolver loops cannot be affixed to shotgun loops. My understanding of this line is that a separate rifle/revolver loop cannot be placed on/over a shotgun loop. Not that a rifle/revolver round can't be placed in a shotgun loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sarge said: Page 3 of the shooters handbook. Rifle/revolver loops cannot be affixed to shotgun loops. That is not "affixed to" the shotgun loop. OP: Lining a shotgun loop with material to convert it into a rifle/pistol ammo loop is not on the list of approved methods for carrying ammunition for stage reloads = ILLEGAL. R/P ammo inserts in SG loops were ruled as ILLEGAL in 2019. Sewing the SG loop to make it smaller in order to accommodate an R/P round (as you mentioned) would be LEGAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Dude! You just MDQ'd yourself on the Wire to the "Big Guy". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 Actually it would have been a SDQ. And when I asked the TO if I could do it, he said I could just stage it on the table, which I did. (It was an 1866 sweep, requiring a reload). I never actually reloaded from that "loop". Clean match, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Instead of stuffing the round in there with an empty shotshell, would stuffing 2 or 3 rifle rounds in the loop be okay? It would not work with this belt as the loops are not closed. Along the same lines, if the bottom of the loops were closed, would dropping a few nickels into the loop to prevent the rounds from falling too far down into it be okay? It was just an idea that occurred to me as I saw saw the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Instead of stuffing the round in there with an empty shotshell, would stuffing 2 or 3 rifle rounds in the loop be okay? SHB pg 3 Shotgun ammo loops may not accommodate more than two rounds per loop, and rifle/revolver ammo loops shall accommodate only one round per loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Instead of stuffing the round in there with an empty shotshell, would stuffing 2 or 3 rifle rounds in the loop be okay? It would not work with this belt as the loops are not closed. Along the same lines, if the bottom of the loops were closed, would dropping a few nickels into the loop to prevent the rounds from falling too far down into it be okay? It was just an idea that occurred to me as I saw saw the picture. NO. Quote Shotgun ammo loops may not accommodate more than two rounds per loop, and rifle/revolver ammo loops shall accommodate only one round per loop. ... ... Note: Any ammo carried to the stage in an illegal/unapproved manner that is actually used for stage reloads falls under the “Use of illegally acquired ammunition” penalties. SHB p.3 The approved methods for carrying ammo for stage reloads are on that same page. The OP's question has been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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