Dusty Morningwood Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 SOLD This is a 100% purpose built sporter, not a cut down M67. It has been reamed to .50-70 for ease and economy. It has the rounded trigger guard, HUSQVARNA stamped barrel and cheekpiece buttstock. Forestock held in place with wedge and escutcheon plates. Bore in the 31.5" barrel is VG and bluing is approximately 95% with some wear. Uses a .515 bullet. Since these guns were manufactured in this form until 1912, I have to ship this one to C&R or FFL. Sorry, no way to tell for sure when built and came to me as a C&R. Asking $650 SHIPPED. Email me at dbeard@mindspring.com for more photos. I was asked why I reamed to .50-70. The original 12.17x42R was a proprietary copper rimfire round developed for the Swedish M67 rolling block manufactured under license from Remington. It was very similar to .50-70 dimensionally. The military chambers were "generous" to deal with the issues of copper cases and black powder fouling. In the 1880s, German companies began loading brass boxer primed cartridges that would be 12.7x44R. Around this time, Husqvarna began manufacturing sporting rolling block rifles and the chambers were tighter for the new brass cartridges. In this country, most of the loading data, reloading dies and brass are based on the M67 chambers, which are much more common on the market than the sporting rifles. My Ch4D 12.7x44R dies will not size brass to fit these chambers and parent brass such as shortened .50 Alaskan, which works well in the M67 chambers, is too big as well. Proper cases can be made from virgin .348 Win cases, but it takes more steps than the average shooter wants to go through. So, by reaming to .50-70 I have a rifle that uses readily available cases and dies, and the same range of bullet diameters and sizes as would be used in an antique .50-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chert Rock Chuck Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Any brass or dies for these rifles? TTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Chertrock Chuck said: Any brass or dies for these rifles? TTT Yes. CH4D makes the correct dies, but many people just fireform the cases to rifle and use .50-70 dies. Depending on individual rifles (chambers can vary by a few thousandths of an inch) brass can be formed from shortened .50 Alaskan and.50-70 or .348 Win., which takes several steps to blow out and trim. Several companies sell formed brass from .348 Win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 You can find info regarding the 12.7x44R dimensions and the .50-70 at http://www.autochart.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chert Rock Chuck Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 It's beyond my skillset. A local pawn shop here has an Egyptian model, forget the caliber but it was also an obsolete cartridge. I'd like to find one in a more common caliber that can be easily sourced. Chert Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Can it be rechambered to 50-70 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Bailey Creek,5759 said: Can it be rechambered to 50-70 ? Easily reamed. Very common. I just have avoided it. Uses same bullets as .50-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconKC Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Chertrock Chuck said: It's beyond my skillset. A local pawn shop here has an Egyptian model, forget the caliber but it was also an obsolete cartridge. I'd like to find one in a more common caliber that can be easily sourced. Chert Rock @Chertrock Chuck Prvi said they were gonna start running .43 Mauser again, might want to look into it. If not, send me their name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted October 18, 2020 Author Share Posted October 18, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 10:31 AM, Chertrock Chuck said: It's beyond my skillset. A local pawn shop here has an Egyptian model, forget the caliber but it was also an obsolete cartridge. I'd like to find one in a more common caliber that can be easily sourced. Chert Rock .43 Egyptian. Very expensive dies and iffy brass. But being a bottleneck, you could get by with neck sizing or paper patching. Easy Breezy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larabee Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Another option to shoot in these rifles is 56/50 Spencer brass and a 50/70 bullet sized down to about .512 to fit the Spencer brass. My dad and I have a couple of these rifles and we shoot both rounds through them, he makes the others from 50 Alaskan brass and they work also. The Spencer's of course don't have a big boom and smoke like the others but I was looking for something with less recoil due to an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chert Rock Chuck Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 9:59 PM, DeaconKC said: @Chertrock Chuck Prvi said they were gonna start running .43 Mauser again, might want to look into it. If not, send me their name! Cash Daddy pawn in Palatka Fl The rifle was in pretty rough shape. I asked what he wanted for it, he said “make an offer”. I considered offering $50 just to use for a wall hanger but walked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Which one has the splintered forend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Morningwood Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Yellowhouse Sam # 25171 said: Which one has the splintered forend? Not splintered. Original cleaning rod channel filled with wood strip that has loostened some. That is the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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