Alpo Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Watching To Have and Have Not. Bogey is performing surgery by the light of a kerosene lamp. They are using chloroform as an anethesia. Ether is flammable, so there might could be a chance of KABOOM. But chloroform? Dangerous around an open flame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It’s not flammable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 If chloroform burns it can create phosgene as a by product and that stuff is very nasty. Good thing though that chloroform is not very likely to burn openly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Kit Cool Gun Garth Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Ether way... better to be safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Phosgene. Nasty stuff. We have a reefer (refrigeration) unit control system catch fire (electrical fire) on my ship. Freon was released. Fire + Freon = Phosgene. A couple of HT’s didn’t don their breathing apparatus and damn near died from inhaling Phosgene. Good thing the Carrier was in helo distance and they got transported there in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack, SASS #20451 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Phosgene isn't too bad. Back when I was making alpha-methyl bad stuff for the Govt. I used a rail car a week as starting material. What I made was BAD stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Happy Jack, SASS #20451 said: Phosgene isn't too bad. Back when I was making alpha-methyl bad stuff for the Govt. I used a rail car a week as starting material. What I made was BAD stuff. I believe it was bad enough that the Germans used it in trench warfare in World War I while experimenting with chemical warfare agents. Granted, chlorine gas will put you down much faster but phosgene will kill you very unpleasantly none the less. Pulmonary edema is a direct result of phosgene inhalation. It's a very slow and unpleasant way to die. I imagine if phosgene was a feedstock for whatever you were producing than the final product was indeed horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Riot Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I want no parts of any of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantankerous Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pat Riot, SASS #13748 said: I want no parts of any of it No you don't. I work in a chemical manufacturing facility and can tell you that there are feedstocks for some relatively seemingly benign products that will do very nasty things to human tissue. There are also other very hazardous chemicals used in some chemical processes in manufacturing the final product that do not become part of the final product. Chemical manufacturing is indeed a world of its own. Not necessarily to be feared but damm well respected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish ike, SASS #43615 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Ether was used extensively until the around the 80's. Explosive/flammable stuff. OR's were dangerous places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramblin Gambler Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Lemme check. It doesn't smell flammm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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