when is a firearm considered dropped?

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

to go with the other "dropped firearm" threads..

 

When does the penalty kick in?  When it leaves the shooter's hand/s or when it comes to rest?

[August West, SASS #45079]

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

1 hour ago, Cheyenne Culpepper 32827 said:

to go with the other "dropped firearm" threads..

 

When does the penalty kick in?  When it leaves the shooter's hand/s or when it comes to rest?

 

Is this a rhetorical question looking for another 5-page "discussion"?

...or are you asking as an RO Instructor seeking the definition?

Quote

Dropped firearm – a firearm that has left the shooter’s control and comes to rest at a location or position other than where it was intended. 

SHB p.44

 

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

1 hour ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said:

 

Is this a rhetorical question looking for another 5-page "discussion"?

...or are you asking as an RO Instructor seeking the definition?

SHB p.44

 

Rhetorical. Because it was stated wrong in the other thread

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

By others

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

Interesting. I found this definition.

drop

/dräp/  

verb

past tense: dropped; past participle: dropped

1. 1.

   let or make (something) fall vertically.

   "the fire was caused by someone dropping a lighted cigarette"

   synonyms:

   let fall, let go of, lose one's grip on; More release, unhand, relinquish "Eric dropped the box" put, place, deposit, set, lay, leave; informalpop, plonk "drop the gun on the ground"

   antonyms:

   ...

    
2. 2.

   fall vertically.

   "the spoon dropped with a clatter from her hand"

   synonyms:

   drip, fall, dribble, trickle, run, plop, leak More "water drops from the cave roof" fall, descend, plunge, plummet, dive, nosedive, tumble, pitch "a plane dropped out of the sky"

 

Seems from this definition that a gun sliding out of a holster, rather than the shooter losing control when the gun was in hand, when the shooter hit the ground wasn't dropped.

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

The key word is 'control'. 

OLG

[Beartrap SASS#57175]

Doesn't make a difference how many other definitions you can find in other places. PW just posted the only definition that matters.

[Cheyenne Culpepper 32827]

4 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said:

The key word is 'control'. 

OLG

don't forget the "AND"......

[Black Mike]

Oops! or Dang! if present would be a dead giveaway.

[Allie Mo, SASS No. 25217]

13 minutes ago, Beartrap SASS#57175 said:

Doesn't make a difference how many other definitions you can find in other places. PW just posted the only definition that matters.

Yes, I have posted that many times.

[Throckmorton,23149]

when everyone behind the shooter is ducking for cover ! 

[Lead Friend, SASS #53635]

There is such a narrow window between loss of control and hitting the ground that the microscopic definition hardly matters. We’ve all seen it happen and we all know what’s coming when the process starts. It only seems to take a long time, like a car wreck.

[Curly Red Ryder]

Hi pals and Happy new year.....the gun is considered as dropped when it hurts your foot!!!!