Grizzly Dave Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Do you use the spacer for 38 special? If I read the manual right, you should for 357 but not 38, but today I had it jam twice by getting two cases in the same finger space and wonder if I used the spacer if that would stop it from happening. Kind of a pain to have to stop, empty the hopper, take the plate off to clear the jam. Other than that my 650 is humming along nicely now that I have the feel for it and am using new brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Harshly, SASS 45531L Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I load 38 special and .357 without the washer. Use large pistol casefeed plate. ummv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August West, SASS #45079 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 How many cases you putting in there Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I am not sure whether I use the spacer or not. I don't thing so. The question is, How many cases do you put in the case feeder at a time? You know I load every day. I have to stop and get primers every 100 just like everyone else. So I find I can put three hand fulls of cases in the hopper. That is using one hand and grabbing as many as I can. If I try to put more in the case feeder, I too get the jamb cases where two will try to get in on slop on the case feeder plate. I also run the case feeder on high for all reloading. Well I do hand feed the drop tube for 38-55 and 45-70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond S Doug Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I do not use the spacer for either one. If I do about 5 out of 500 will get under the plate. Without it none do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin Gun For Hire Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Grizz, I think the key is not to load up the hopper. I have the same problem with mine if I overload it, and I run a Hornady Lock and load AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 If you use the spacer washer occasionally a case will jam under the plate with 38s. Have not had it happen since I removed the washer......... Don't know what you mean by 2 in the same finger space ?................... Mink............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted September 8, 2013 Author Share Posted September 8, 2013 I was putting in maybe 5 handfuls, guess I'll put in fewer next time. After the first one, I put in less and it happened again, guess I'll drop down to 3 handfuls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twelve mile REB Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Take the washer out, some can handle more brass than others mine regularly gets 300 at a time without problems. My most common failure with the feeder is spitting a brass out at the top and a jam every blue moon. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Hanger #3720LR Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I find that cleaning the case feeder hopper helps. Once I get it clean I spray it with silicon spray and wipe that with a clean rag. This reduces the cases from hanging up and stopping the plate from turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal TKD, Sass # 36984L Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 No spacer and no problems, unless I put to many cases in the feeder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 I checked it last night when I was out loading, no spacer. I found that even putting in only two handfuls, while it wouldn't jam up as before, the motor would stall out. I was on a roll loading so I'd just jump up and give it a nudge every time that happened. Next time I'm out there I'll climb up on the step ladder and see what is going on when it stalls out. Could be that I have a weak motor. Thanks for the input folks! Only bad thing about the 650 other than my little issues is that I've run completely thru my stock of bullets, and still have a bunch more cases to stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mink Shoals Bandit, #49388 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Find an old mirror and hang above the feeder and you won't need a ladder to see what's going on......................... Mink............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond S Doug Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 It might not be the motor Grizzly. The center section of the casefeeder plate is a clutch assy. Check to make sure the clutch isn't adjusted to light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Dave Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 From what I can tell the only adjustment for the clutch is how tight the screws holding the feeder plate on, is that right? I messed with those a bit with no improvement, but need to play with it when I can see what's going on to tell what it's really doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond S Doug Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 The two screws in the clutch assembly (center hub) should be torqued to 5 in/lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Go West Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I only use the washer for .45 Colt cases. Like others said, watch the bolt tightness, because of the clutch. I only use the high speed on the feeder, the low speed doesn't like many cases in it. Put 200 or so in it and run it down before adding more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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