Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) A number of shooters have been using .22s at club matches. A question came up regarding copper washed vs. waxed bullets. For any other pistol and rifle ammo used in SASS matches, only lead or poly coated bullets are allowed. Does the restriction for lead only also apply for .22s? And if so why. Interestingly enough I just bought a box of poly coated .22s made by CCI. Edited April 1 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) The restriction forbidding "copper washed" ammunition was removed from the relevant section in the SHB in 2019. Quote REVOLVER AND RIFLE AMMUNITION - May not be jacketed, semi-jacketed, hollow point, plated, or gas checked. It must be all lead. Moly-Disulfide, polymer coated bullets, or equivalents are acceptable. SHB p.26 Edited April 1 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L edit txt 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake-eye, SASS#45097 Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 Thanks for the clarification. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Seems like I've seen somewhere a requirement for .22 ammo to be lower powered (subsonic?) for CAS. But I don't know if anyone is questioning it at matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Abilene, SASS # 27489 said: Seems like I've seen somewhere a requirement for .22 ammo to be lower powered (subsonic?) for CAS. But I don't know if anyone is questioning it at matches. Quote Buckaroo/Buckarette: 13 and under. o Buckaroo/Buckarette competitors must use revolvers, rifles, and shotguns meeting the external standards but may be chambered in .22 LR for revolvers and rifles and .410 caliber, 28 ,or 32 gauge shotguns. o Standard velocity ammunition for these firearms must be used. REF: SHB p.5 Edited April 1 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L edit txt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Okay, but what is "standard velocity" for a .22? I grabbed 3 boxes of .22's I had handy. One says "High Velocity", one says 1200 fps, one says 1280 fps. Are those standard velocity? I guess I'm just saying that I haven't noticed anyone paying attention at matches as to what type of ammo is being shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacramento Johnson #6873 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Found this on CCI's web site: https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/standard_velocity/6-32.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) Abilene, Many, if not most, of the 'all lead' .22 rimfire bullets on the market are in the "Standard Velocity" range, which is basically 1000 - 1080 fps range. I'm only speaking from my experience using a wide variety of .22 ammo thru the years. p.s. - I just acquired some CCI "Standard Velocity" .22 ammo with a rated velocity of 1070 fps. I think these velocity rating are for a rifle length barrel. ..........Widder Edited April 1 by Widder, SASS #59054 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) It's kind of like defining a "high velocity shotgun shell." Edited April 1 by Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, Branchwater Jack SASS #88854 said: It's kind of like defining a "high velocity shotgun shell." If a box of factory shotgun ammo is labeled "SUPER MAGNUM HIGH SPEED SUPER-DUPER GOOSE SHREDDER", it's probably NOT LEGAL. Edited April 1 by PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L edit txt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I'm with PWB, if it says high velocity, it ain't standard velocity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Tennessee williams said: I'm with PWB, if it says high velocity, it ain't standard velocity Suddenly, all the Wire Pards are having sympathy for PWB...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennessee williams Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Suddenly, all the Wire Pards are having sympathy for PWB...... You're just mad I didn't agree with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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