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#1:  Winchester Model 12.  This gun appears to have been built in 1927.  Along the line, someone refinished the stock and did a re-blue.  I had the barrel cut to 18 3/4” and an oversize bead installed.  The gun also has a Pachmyr recoil pad.  I have not had any action work done to the gun. $400.00 Shipped to a U.S. address.  

 

#2 (Sold) Winchester Model 97 D Series takedown.  According the Serial number, this gun was built in 1906.  I bought the gun from Mackinaw Kid, who set the gun up.  It has an oversize bead and the barrel has been cut to 18 ½ inches.  The forcing cone has been extended.  Mackinaw did a repair to the carrier (see photo).  The gun will squeeze 6 rounds into the magazine, but it is a tight fit.  It wears a Kick EEZ recoil pad.  $600.00 Shipped to a U.S. address.  

 

Sarge

 

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2 minutes ago, C.N. Double said:

If the Model 12 is 2 3/4" chamber, I'll take it.

I believe it is, but I don't have the gun with me.  I am on a hunting trip.  Can check when I get back Monday.

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6 minutes ago, C.N. Double said:

If the Model 12 is 2 3/4" chamber, I'll take it.

According to this article, the 12 ga was chambered in 2 3/4".  But let me double check.

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1 hour ago, C.N. Double said:

There were 3" versions, and I do not want a 3".

 

I don't think they made the 3 inch back in the 20's, the barrel could have been replaced with a 3" but that wouldn't matter as long as the internal are 2 3/4 or modified.

 

Mine is a 3"... There is a way to make them as smooth and reliable as the 2 3/4... I've done 2. Goatneck Clem told me how to do it. All you really have to do is replace the lifter with one from a 2 3/4. I replaced mine with a non flagged one, then modified it to take the flag from the original 3" lifter. There is also a mod you can do to the bolt to make it as smooth as the 2 3/4. Best part is it will still cycle and fire 3" shells! I have no idea why they made the bolt and lifter different in the 3 but the added weight of the 3 inch barrels is nice for sucking up recoil...

 

(Estate 2 3/4" 1oz)

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On 10/1/2020 at 10:54 PM, C.N. Double said:

If the Model 12 is 2 3/4" chamber, I'll take it.

Just got home and looked at the gun.  It is not marked either 2 3/4" or 3".  On the barrel, it is stamped Nickel Steel and Full Choke.  I did try a 3" shell and it chambered easily.  If I was a betting man, I'd say 3" but I do not now for certain.

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4 minutes ago, Sarge said:

Just got home and looked at the gun.  It is not marked either 2 3/4" or 3".  On the barrel, it is stamped Nickel Steel and Full Choke.  I did try a 3" shell and it chambered easily.  If I was a betting man, I'd say 3" but I do not now for certain.

 

Thanks, Sarge. I appreciate the extra information, and I hope your hunting trip was productive. I'm going to pass on this one, but I'm sure it is a fine shotgun another shooter will enjoy.

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12 minutes ago, C.N. Double said:

 

Thanks, Sarge. I appreciate the extra information, and I hope your hunting trip was productive. I'm going to pass on this one, but I'm sure it is a fine shotgun another shooter will enjoy.

No worries.  Hunting trip was great.

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I believe a 3 inch shell will chamber in a 2 3/4 chamber due to the extra space for the crimp to go when fired.  However if you fired the 3 inch the crimp is now opening in the barrel instead of chamber and pressure goes way up.  marking may have been polished off during reblue.

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2 hours ago, roughcreek, SASS#42949 said:

I believe a 3 inch shell will chamber in a 2 3/4 chamber due to the extra space for the crimp to go when fired.  However if you fired the 3 inch the crimp is now opening in the barrel instead of chamber and pressure goes way up.  marking may have been polished off during reblue.

I appreciate that.  Is there any other way to tell?  There are some markings on the follower.

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I checked my M12. No marking for that on my barrel either.  So I got out my little steel ruler.  If you look down the chamber you can see the forcing cone.

Sticking my rule in till I feel the forcing cone at 2.7 inches.  2 3/4 inch shell is 2.4 inches. leaving 0.3 inches for the crimp to unfold.  I measure a 3 inch shell

to be 2.6 inches.  It fits in the gun but the opening of the crimp is restricted by the forcing cone, raising pressure.  A 3 1/2 inch shell is bigger in diameter so

wont fit.

That is my findings on my M12.

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Thank you.  Will try to check it after work tomorrow.

24 minutes ago, roughcreek, SASS#42949 said:

I checked my M12. No marking for that on my barrel either.  So I got out my little steel ruler.  If you look down the chamber you can see the forcing cone.

Sticking my rule in till I feel the forcing cone at 2.7 inches.  2 3/4 inch shell is 2.4 inches. leaving 0.3 inches for the crimp to unfold.  I measure a 3 inch shell

to be 2.6 inches.  It fits in the gun but the opening of the crimp is restricted by the forcing cone, raising pressure.  A 3 1/2 inch shell is bigger in diameter so

wont fit.

That is my findings on my M12.

 

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