Come On Christmas Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Also how do the hollow base 38 Long Colts shoot thru em using conversion cylinders? Who makes the mould for this projectile? Dick Dastardly where are you? Just in dream stage at this point. Shameless Womanizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Hi Shameless 38 hollow based wadcutters shoot very well out of conversion cylinders. I just use 38 special cases. I usually load them with a target load of bullseye, leaving a little of the bullet protruding from the case. I tried them once with black powder & had leading galore in the barrel. Thought they might work well with 777, but never have tried it. --Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adirondack Jack, SASS #53440 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Or ya can go with a heeled bullet and special crimp die from Old West Bullet Moulds. Bernie Rowles is a master mould maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Come On Christmas Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 Dawg - so you just seat a 38 deeper in a 38 special case? Cool, I am glad I asked. Jack- that is who Kirst reccommended. I emailed him already. Sooo back to my other query. What style of 1851 works best for our game? Do you guys use the gated or non gated version of converter? Ease of switching back and forth to cap n ball. If I am at a speedy quick club I wanna go to shooting cartridge after the third stage, especially if there are 6 stages in all. Shameless Shameless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Coffinmaker Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 Well ........ My choice is a purpose built Uberti 1851 Richards Mason Conversion in .38 Spl. Load regular .38 Spl ammunition and after a little tuning, excellent reliability. The Conversions built from BP guns, especially if authentic are great fun but usually suffer from reliability issues. Also, as posted, finding suitable bullets can be a real pain. Coffinmaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flint 976 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I use 148gr HB Wadcutters, as I bought the Remington brand bulk. The Remington has a very black lube that seems to work better than the Speer or Hornady. (The Remington requires a more frequent seating die cleanout). The Hornady leads more than the Speer, which leads a bit more than the Remington. (Using smokeless). Seating the bullet in a 38 Special case with about 1/16 lead exposed still clears the length of the cylinder and satisfies the SASS requirement that the bullet be visible in a loaded cartridge. The conical hollowbase will be too long for a 38 Special loading, as it is designed for the 38LC case, it will be short enough in that case to fit within the cylinder length. The 148gr HBWC might be too long to seat in a 38LC case if the brass gets too thick near the base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallaby Jack, SASS #44062 Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I prefer the rounded (non square) trigger guard type with the propper size of grip. And the calibre of .36 It seems that the Uberti brand has some that require a .380" ball instead of the more conventional .375" (because of this "quirk" I only use .380s which I have to cast myself) I bought Cap and Ball revolvers so's I could shoot balls using caps; ... I already had cartridge guns. .... seems to me that the conversion cylinders are a lot more trouble than they are worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowhand Bob, 24229 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Actually I like the '51 with its full length barl BUT if the girl we want to spend the most time with is the one we love, then perhaps it is a different story! The .36 I shoot the most has become the Pietta 1862 uhhh -61 model. I like the shorter barl for holster work. Pietta also makes the '51 in a short barl .44 that is my favorite shooting cap and ball revolver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahomabound Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I have been shooting a pair of Uberti 1851 Richards Mason Open Top Conversion revolvers for 4 years or more. After a bit of tuning they shoot great! I shoot .38 Specials loaded plumb full of Schuetzen Ffg Black Powder and 158 grain bullets--the ones what have all that extra lube. Point of Aim is Point of Impact with these revolvers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby Crighton Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Or ya can go with a heeled bullet and special crimp die from Old West Bullet Moulds. Bernie Rowles is a master mould maker. I can only second this endorsement, my hollow base mould from Bernie is a masterwork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Colt's Belt Model of 1851. However much I persoanally like the square-back trigger guard, if ya got fat fingers... get the round guard model! Mine barely fit. The '61 Navies are also real popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oklahomabound Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Colt's Belt Model of 1851. However much I persoanally like the square-back trigger guard, if ya got fat fingers... get the round guard model! Mine barely fit. The '61 Navies are also real popular. ...nice guns... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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