Tennessee williams

My opinion is this. If the question is whether or not a match director or TO or whomever, has the ability to overturn a CORRECTLY CALLED violation, other than what they are allowed to by the handbook? Sure they can. They can also make up their own new rules such as the plant and poke rule where you can't load the sg on the move. Im sure there are many range and or region specific rules. I've never seen anybody hold the Match director down while someone else pulls their fingernails out with pliers unless they follow the SASS handbook. But! I have heard people say, "I'm not going to such and suches to shoot. They don't follow SASS rules." Should the Match Director or TO overturn a CORRECTLY CALLED violation, other than what is allowed in the handbook? IMO no. This to me introduces "feelings" and judgement into the call that is wholly dependent on the person making the call and can and will vary by that person. Do I feel bad for making a call on my Grandmaw? Sure I do, but rules are rules. The handbook doesn't say don't drop a gun unless you get hit with a ricochet. It says don't drop a gun. You'll have some TOs who will not make the call. Other ones will make the required hard call. The one who doesn't make the call has penalized everybody except the person they did not make the correct call on. Again. Just my opinion.

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He ain't subscribed yet, but he's gonna be. Come to think about it. You may just get signed up too!

Funny. I ran a check to see what parts of the country they all came from. Wouldn't you know it?! They ALL originated in East Tennessee! I think I'm gonna have to enroll some people in the Mary Kaye cosmetics line. That, or Playgirl! Ha!

It has been clarified the first impact is the one that counts.

Well, it would've been goofy to think about little ones wouldn't it?

I'll sometimes have a stage where we want the shooter to move just a touch further than "close enough to ground" and will use vertical uprights. One such stage is where 3 positions are close enough together, they could potentially be turned into 2 positions by shooting from between the locations. Close enough to ground seems to work great for us. It's usually a trade off as a 7ft tall shooter can be 1 foot further away from the table but the 5ft tall shooter will get there usually quicker. And 97% of the shooters fire from the center of the shooting position anyway, lol.

We have been using "at shooter’s discretion" instead of "at the ready" but same as eot, cannot be touching guns or ammo. It seems to get the point across. We also defined what "from position...." is. If you're close enough to ground the firearm on that table without moving your feet, you're at that position. It seems to work better than "from behind the table" or "atleast 1 foot behind the table" etc. I hate footfaults.

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Well. I've got no comeback for that one.

I am among other things, a commercial and large residential building contractor. The SHB is not written as a contract and isn't meant to be read as a contract. The SHB resembles a building code book as much as anything. Meaning there are many sub-sets or categorical rules if you will. What is pertinent to one sub-set has nothing to do with another. An example is this: traditional or duelist shooter fires only 4 from 1st revolver and lays it down on the table. Draws 2nd pistol and gets a P as soon as the 1st round goes down range from the 2nd pistol for shooting out of category because the pistol laying on the table not being touched at all by the shooter is considered "in hand" with a live round in it and the only style can have to in hand is Gunfighter. Which is contrary to this: Shooter fires all 5 out of the first revolver and tables it Intending to fire the next revolver not realizing he or she cocked the 1st one an extra time. That shooter has just received a stage DQ for a cocked revolver leaving the shooters' hand!! Wait for it... ^I think this is why the shb is so large. If it says we can't have ammo in hand, do we really think we can squeeze it between thumb and forefinger? Honestly? If I were PWB, I'd want extra pay for having to explain everything. And for some people(not you!) to get mad because someone told someone else to read the rule book? That their purpose is to help people, not say that? I'd say that reading the rule book WOULD help people. What are we going to do in 200 years when PWB gets tired of telling people not to drink the bleach and quits? They may not interpret it the correct way, but that's why everyone here tries to help folks. When I said "reasonable person", I meant it in the legal definition i.e. "the usual behavior of an average person under the same circumstance". I don't want you to feel like I'm attacking you, it's just that you brought up good points that I wanted to touch base on. I appreciate that. Good luck and have fun at the Western Regionals. Shoot well!

I use the verbiage begin "Standing at shooters discretion" thereby eliminating the SASS defaulted way they must stand. I haven't eliminated any ammo covenants with that verbiage so it still is in effect. Just my opinion but I believe it is obvious or should be, that by saying you can't start with ammo in hand, you can't pinch it between your fingers either. But, we have bottles of bleach that says do not drink it so I guess there's some folks out there who need to be told not to.

I like it. Staying off topic. Some stagewriters as you know get chastised for superfluous verbiage which shooters should know from just reading the handbook. Others get chastised for not including enough instruction. We just aren't going to make 100% happy. I've been wording stages different purposefully to see what results in the fewest questions and the most understanding. Some superfluous instruction I hear people fuss about: *Hands not touching gun or ammo *make shotgun (or rifle) safe *pistols holstered There's others but my food just came out!