Dantankerous Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Well, Italian that is. I have a old model P Cimarron 45 Colt, (black powder frame) that while unfired seems to be a fantastic sixgun. I've not handled either a Taylors, or Great Western model of the same BP frame design. So, keeping an apples to apples comparison how would the GW differ (albeit minor differences I presume) if at all from the others listed? I've read that the GW is a fantastic Colt replica but why exactly? Thank you for any helpful insight.
Abilene, SASS # 27489 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 I would say two main things separate the Pietta from Uberti: firing pin bushing, and replaceable hammer cam. Then obviously there is the Uberti 3-click hammer with the retractable firing pin (except for some Cimarrons). In general, but not always, the Piettas come with lighter springs from the factory as well.
Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Colt - barrel lug for ejector, replaceable hammer cam, firing pin bushing. Pietta - all three Standard Arms - two; hammer cam, firing pin bushing USFA - one; firing pin bushing Uberti - none
Dantankerous Posted July 4, 2023 Author Posted July 4, 2023 Pietta being the maker of the Great Western is the part I was missing.
Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dantankerous said: Pietta being the maker of the Great Western is the part I was missing. The Great Western was a Colt replica made by a different company. EMF (now owned by Pietta) dubbed their current 1873 pattern revolvers the “Great Western 2”.
Dantankerous Posted July 4, 2023 Author Posted July 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, Abe E.S. Corpus SASS #87667 said: The Great Western was a Colt replica made by a different company. EMF (now owned by Pietta) dubbed their current 1873 pattern revolvers the “Great Western 2”. I was wondering.about the II part. Thanks.
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 A while back, I posted some comparisons of the different clones in my collection, taking a close look at the different safeties and other odd differences, with pics and everything. Here's the thread.
River Jordan, SASS 18742 Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said: Colt - barrel lug for ejector, replaceable hammer cam, firing pin bushing. Pietta - all three Standard Arms - two; hammer cam, firing pin bushing USFA - one; firing pin bushing Uberti - none I don't know the answer to this but is a firing pin bushing really needed now that we have better steel? With Ruger's long history since the 50's and magnum cartridges it seems we would see alot of issues with old 3 screw Blackhawks etc.. Was the original Colt bushing needed because of the softer frames in the 1870s? ( I understand we are comparing originality to a design standard in your reply so please don't see this as a critique)
Lead Monger Posted July 5, 2023 Posted July 5, 2023 I have seen more than one Uberti with an enlarged or eroded firing pin hole. I do have an open top that has had the recoil shield welded and firing pin hole redrilled so, a replaceable bushing could help some Uberti models.
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