Warden Callaway Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 With powder hard to impossible to come by, here is some in stock. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/83678 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth Bradford Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Warden Callaway said: With powder hard to impossible to come by, here is some in stock. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/83678 I picked some up recently, @Warden Callawaydo you have a good starting load for this powder.... 125 grain 38 special?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 SULFURLESS? Ptooey! Rubbish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Gator SASS #29736 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Is that closer to triple7 then the other subs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warden Callaway Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, Seth Bradford said: I picked some up recently, @Warden Callawaydo you have a good starting load for this powder.... 125 grain 38 special?? I haven't used this powder but I've been told it's the same as BlackMZ. I've loaded that for years. I use 1cc in 38 Special cases. I didn't note the bullet weight. It's not critical anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Montana Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I use it, not that I am a BP Substitute expert. The label says: American Pioneer Powder FFFG Made for Shooters World LLC By American Pioneer Powder, Inc. 1475 Blair Road, Whitewater, CO 81527 I use it for 12 GA shotgun, 45 Colt, 45 Cowboy Special, and 38 Special. Use the same loads as I did using APP 3FG with like results. Looks like APP, smokes like APP, cleans up like APP. Edited October 19, 2021 by Bingo Montana Added Picture 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Seth Bradford said: good starting load for this powder.... 125 grain 38 special?? 9-10 grains by WEIGHT with a 125gr bullet. I use 38-40 gr by WEIGHT in shotshells with an ounce of shot and it’s GREAT. Hugs! Scarlett 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarlett Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 22 hours ago, Smokin Gator SASS #29736 said: Is that closer to triple7 then the other subs? No. This is private labeled for ShootersWorld by APP. It’s the same formula as Black MZ and is actually more of a 2.5F than 3F as told to me by the owner of APP. I’m a ShootersWorld and APP distributor and introduced them to each other when SW was wanting to offer a BP sub. I will be at SE Regional this weekend and will have some with me. I don’t ship it so order from Graf’s. Hugs! Scarlett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Montana Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Scarlett said: 9-10 grains by WEIGHT with a 125gr bullet. I use 38-40 gr by WEIGHT in shotshells with an ounce of shot and it’s GREAT. Hugs! Scarlett Good info right there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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