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I gotta disagree... If you wanna bump any penalty up is should be the MSV... No way should a P be a bigger hit on one's scorecard than a MSV. No matter how many brain fades you have in the course of any single stage, should the penalty be greater than just one safety infraction, no matter how minor.
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Please delete post thank you . Scam I did not know about
Griff replied to Rooster Ron Wayne's topic in SASS Wire
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In my unofficial interpretation of the rules, there's no mystery... not legal as a SASS handgun because it is not a single action revolver, the only handguns allowed as main match handguns. Nor as a main match shotgun, as it is not a shoulder fired firearm. I.e., not a "long gun". The Winchester 1887 didn't leave the factory in this configuration, so it isn't a replica of a period firearm.
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If it ain't wrong..... I'll just shoot 'Gunfighter' this year
Griff replied to Widder, SASS #59054's topic in SASS Wire
All will be forgiven if you keep your "Buck-da-Law" "Gamer" card on display! -
You (collective, not specific) can't judge intent without asking. The liar will just earn our contempt. Which will soon lead losing interest and leave as they learn that's harder to overcome than a "SOG".
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Starline 45 Cowboy Special is Available for Backorder
Griff replied to Sedalia Dave's topic in SASS Wire
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I apologize in advance for being long winded… After 5 agonizing years, I’ll finally post an ode to my life partner, “Griff’s Girl”, SASS #14 who slipped away on January 29th, 2019 after a short but haggard battle with esophageal cancer. By mid 1986, after several months of being a “CAS widow” twice a month, she made the decision to join me on my forays out to the Coto Cowboys and to the West End Outlaws. 1st selecting the alias “Sly Di”, then, shortly after SASS was formed in 1987, she’d tired of it, changing it to Griff’s Girl and keeping that to the end. Sometime in 1988 we started taking our travel trailer out to West End on Friday nite before the monthly match with our generator and setting up to do the score keeping at the cowboy match the following day. Between her and several “gal pals”, they kept the lag between the last shot and finished scores from being too onerous. She had been volunteering at Coto each month to help add the scores up for each shooter due to her prowess on a 10-key adding machine. Her day job being an accountant. At West End she adapted a spreadsheet program to ease the data entry and spit out meaningful results. After we moved to Texas in 1990, she was instrumental in helping form The Lone Star Frontier Shooting Club, being club Treasurer for the several years. Each month she helped me load our target steel & stands for each match and unload it back in our barn with me that evening. For our first few annual shoots, she helped design the stages, and contributed to the story line for each stage, keeping to a theme for the entire match. For the last annual shoot she attended, she wrote the entire stage description, story and designed the stages. She handled all the registration, shooter check in, answered questions and generally gave the rest of our Board our marching orders. As the match progressed, she would come out of the scoring tent, shoot a stage, pick up its scoresheet, and rush back to continue inputting each shooter’s score. At the Saturday nite award’s banquet, I asked her how I did and was told, “I don’t know, I just finished printing the results, handed them to Dusty (MC for the awards), in time for him to get here.” (approximately an hours drive from the shoot venue… I asked how she did and was told, “I hope I’m in the top five Traditional Ladies, but I didn’t even look at the either the category or overall results… just stuffing the sheets in an envelope for Joey and pushed him out so I could change for the banquet!” She was the glue that held us together, the wheel that kept us headed straight, and the comb that kept us organized! Missed every day, and extremely thankful she filled our 48 years of married life with joy and love. Sometimes accompanied by a swift kick in the rear to help with motivation!
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Check with Mid-South, Natchez, or Graf's, they had RWS 1075, same diam as Remington #10, but the skirt length is shorter. Worked fine on my 1851s with SlickShot nipples.
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It's bad enough that some 45ACP has small primers... now you want to screw up 45 Colt also? I've seen a couple of posts in the past few days stating where you can find LPP.
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BigLube Bullets/Molds Alternatives? Solutions? Squishy-Squish?
Griff replied to Bisley Joe's topic in SASS Wire
I can't help on 38s & BP... but BP with the 45 Colt and general rifle loading, I can offer up what I do. 45 Colt rifles, I use a bullet I cast from a RCBS 45-225-CAV mold, it has a great lube groove which carries enough lube for my 24-¼" rifles. For pistols I load the C45S with either Goex or APP and a 160 grain cast bullet from Badman bullets, absolutely no need for that big 45 case in the handguns at SASS distances. (Not really needed in the rifles, but takes a special carrier to adapt a toggle link to use the short case). For the 45-70, using Goex, I compress my powder using a compression die. then a "waxed card" wad (think old paper milk jug, then either a lubed wool wad or a grease cookie and a 405 grain RFN bullet that I size & lube with SPG. This gives me plenty of lube for the 26" bbl on my 1886. In my rifles I'm not using a "hard cast" bullet, and compressing the load with the bullet stands a good chance of deforming the nose. -
If one has the money to burn, ignores the economics of its use, focuses solely on its sole good point, then all appears rosy, might be due to the glasses...
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I think the same as I thought when TB was introduced: Why would I spend the same amount for 9 ounces of TB as I spend for a pound of Red Dot and use the same weight per cartridge? Yep, I thought someone was blowing smoke up someone's kiester, and still are. But, (no pun intended), some like that feeling...
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Any SASS attendees or news from Shot Show ‘24?
Griff replied to Tennessee River's topic in SASS Wire
And they missed the one that might actually be SASS legal... The Winchester Ranger, for the Buckaroo/ette crowd! (Or bigger kids where allowed locally)! -
Taurus came out with another SA, called the Deputy
Griff replied to Nimble Fingers SASS# 25439's topic in SASS Wire
The actual description lists it as single action... that abbreviation is probably just web-geek oversight... But, it's still a transfer bar action... I doubt it will be a front runner out of the box. -
If only it were available in 45 Colt with a 1 - 16" twist! Maybe...
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Pictures of fired brass will aid in long distance diagnosing of unseen problem. Your responses will be closer to the scientific wild-assed guess end of the spectrum of possible answers, rather than the silly wild-assed guess end.
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In nearly 38 years of shooting 45 Colt in revolvers, and & 36 years of using a 45 Colt Uberti '73 Sporting rifle in cowboy action matches, I've never had a split case mouth, I will from time to time have a split in the body of the case. For the 1st 2 years I used a single stage RCBS press and their standard dies. In 1987 I went to a Dillon 550 and carbide dies. I have 3 sets of carbide dies, one set on a toolhead for the 550 for 45 Colt, one set on a toolhead for C45S, and one set in the box for range use with developing loads on the Lyman Spartan press. I don't tally how many times my brass has been loaded, so that with a little over 1,500 fired cases rotating thru my loading and cleaning cycles, undoubtedly some of it has probably seen much more use than others. Using what I consider a median load, (~850 fps from 24-¼" bbl), with bullet weights between 200 & 230 grains, the fired cases used in various 45 Colt rifles (6), will sometimes see a slight bulge on one side of the case. I believe this is the bottom of the cartridge as it rests in the chamber, being held more to the top of the chamber by the extractor, and therefor what case expansion there is, is at the bottom. I'm fairly confident that repeated orientation at the same position overworks the brass after full length sizing each time. As I don't segregate my brass by age or brand, this random repeated orientation is just that, random, & unpredictable. Losing a piece or 3 every 4-500 reloads, doesn't concern me. Way less than the number of cases ejected forward of the firing line. With a couple thousand new cases ready to take a turn in my loading rotation, I don't sweat losing a few pieces of brass... If I were trying to shoot every weekend and had a "budget" of only a few hundred cases or less... I might sweat it a little more. Why, I might even get anxious over not being able to order brass at any given time!
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Different bullets will have the crimp groove located differently. In fact I would be quite surprised if even two bullets had the crimp groove positioned to provide the same OAL, let alone several. Sixgun Seamus is correct, SWCs don't work well in most rifles, the wider the meplat, the harder they are to feed. I seat & crimp in the same step, necessary to use a powder check on a Dillon 550. And while the SAMMI spec is a max OAL of 1.600", that's for revolvers, most rifle require a length shy of this by differing amounts. My newest 1873, requires a max length of around 1.579".
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Cleaning Supplies? In my gun cart? If I need to clean, I shouldn't have come to the match. I go to matches to shoot, stay home to clean.
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I'd have been more interested in seeing how he decapped those Berdan primed shells. I'll stick with my regular wet tumbling. If you turn on closed captioning, then open the settings menu, select English, you might get a clearer picture... or not.
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With a PF of 60 and velocity of 400 fps... it's right there in the rules. For me, personally, I find the C45S with a 160 grain pill and 3.2 grains of Clays. Although I generally use 3.4... for some obscure and mysterious reason.
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+2! I might not be as fast at charging my cylinders as others, but I can usually get it done in 3 or 4 shooters and either stay there, or spot, score or otherwise help out. The key is being ready to shoot early in the rotation, (another reason why "shoot in order" is problematic).
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IMO, one needs at least 3 rifles for long range side matches. Two lever guns chambered in a cartridge suitable to the ranges one might expect to encounter... One for those where range might exceed 500 yards, and one suitable out to around 250-350 yards. As for rifle #3, a single shot is almost mandatory if you're going for long range shooting. One rifle can cover most of the common long range events... In a traditional black powder cartridge loaded with smokeless you can reach out those far targets, and with black powder as propellant it meets the requirements of a "Buffalo Gun". There are many models to choose from, some of the most popular are the Winchester Hi Wall, Springfield Trapdoor, and the various Sharps models. But, far more important than either the rifle model or the specific cartridge one selects are the sights that you put on them. If the rifle won't accept a quality tang sights, you're limiting your options. Expect to spend more than you'd like for those quality sights.
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+1 to Creeker, all correct. My problem with Henry Repeating Arms goes back to when they advertised their Henry Big Boy as SASS Legal before ever asking if it was. Dishonest at worst, simply fulfilling the mantra about assuming at best.
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I shoot Colt 1851s (2nd Gens), one cylinder per gun... I load on the gun, at home prior to leaving. Cap at the loading table... The only time I deviated from that I capped empty chambers at stage one to clear nipples... and guess what... had a bit of fission material plug the nipple. After that, I load all six chambers, cap 5, and shoot the stage, go to the unloading table with my loading kit and recharge the 5 chambers emptied at that stage. Repeat for up to 12 stages over a 3 day match. Clean guns at home, at my leisure, been doing it that way since they made Frontiersman.