Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) Hi: Anyone know where I can get smokeless loads using cast bullets (Other than Load Data) for the .38-56 WCF? Thanks, Cat Edited January 31 by Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Not Complete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Red Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) C squared Try this..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.38-56_WCF Load data enclosed in article by Iron Mike.... TR Edited January 31 by Texas Red addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I’ve shot a lot of 38-55 with Unique. 9.6 grns with a 245 grn bullet in lever, 10.0 with a 260 grn bullet in HiWall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroy Luck Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 “The handloaders manual of cartridge conversions” list 38-56 Winchester with 25 grains of IMR 4198 under a 250gr lead bullet. Couldn’t find data in any other manual I possess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 54 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’ve shot a lot of 38-55 with Unique. 9.6 grns with a 245 grn bullet in lever, 10.0 with a 260 grn bullet in HiWall. Sorry, I mis-read! 38-56 vs 38-55!!! but I bet there is a unique load that will work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 27 minutes ago, Leroy Luck said: “The handloaders manual of cartridge conversions” list 38-56 Winchester with 25 grains of IMR 4198 under a 250gr lead bullet. Couldn’t find data in any other manual I possess. I have been using 4198 but am looking for different powders to try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Sledge Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Cat, Try 20 grs of 5744 or if you more horse power 31 gr of RL 7 with 250 255 gr bullet. JB Sledge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 7 minutes ago, JB Sledge said: Cat, Try 20 grs of 5744 or if you more horse power 31 gr of RL 7 with 250 255 gr bullet. JB Sledge Thanks JB. Already tried those. Looking for something different. Data is hard to find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I have some load data. I will try to look it up later today and post it for you. I found that some of the posted loa.ds listed as accurate really weren't. I had one load that would shoot just over 2" at 200 yds with a peep site, I will post it I can find it. kR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Handloader Nov 1989 Lyman 375248, 248g 30.2g IMR 3031 " " 375296, 265g 36g IMR 3031 Winchester FNSP 255g 31g RL-7 Barnes FNSP 255g 37g IMR-4895 Hornady FNSP 220g 38g H-4895 " " 36g RL-7 COW 13th Ed 2012 265 lead gas checked 25g IMR 4198 Shooting Lever Guns of the Old West by Mike Venturino 2010 RCBS 38-255FN 275g 20g Accurate XMP-5744 Most accurate for me was Olde Einsford 1.5g 48 gs compressed with a BACO mold 260gs .2595 dia. kR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 If you can find some Trail Boss. Unique 9.0 Gr. 2400 18.0 Gr. IMR 4227 21.0 Gr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Bailey Creek,5759 said: If you can find some Trail Boss. Unique 9.0 Gr. 2400 18.0 Gr. IMR 4227 21.0 Gr. What bullet with these powders? I have a 5 LB container of TrailBoss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 250, you can use a heavier bullet. Or lighter one. If you can find a Gas Check bullet, they work well in older Firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Cummings SASS #1870L Posted January 31 Author Share Posted January 31 6 minutes ago, Bailey Creek,5759 said: 250, you can use a heavier bullet. Or lighter one. If you can find a Gas Check bullet, they work well in older Firearms. I have molds ranging from 232 grains to 340 grains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 In my 38-55 I like 249 gr. There isn't much difference between the 38-55 and Marlins 38-56. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Rich Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 In 38-56 if you go much beyond a 260g bullet it will extend well down into the case below the bottle neck or if left out so it does not it will not feed in a lever rifle as it will probably be too long. kR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Creek,5759 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Looking at Cartridges of the World. They show a 265 Gr. Bullet, 4198 POWDER 25 grs. At 1600 Fps. 255 Gr, Jacket Bullet, 3031 Powder, 36 grs, at 1830 Fps. Factory load, 255 Gr, Bullet at 1395 Fps. At 200 yd. MRT = 12.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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