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How good are Uberti 1860 Army Revolvers?


Willy B.SASS#26902

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Howdy Folks

I have a chance to buy a pair of Uberti 1860's in great shape but I have absolutely no knowledge on 1860 army's, I've been using Remington 58's for years but my experience with Colt designs is pretty thin so any advise would be appreciated.

My main questions are

1. Are these pretty trouble free?

2. Do the Uberti copy's use the original creeping loading lever?

3. Other than adding Treso nipples what needs to be done to make them useable?

 

Thanks for the help

Willy B'

Posted

I've got several and they are nice revolvers.

 

Larsen Pettifogger did a set of "tuning" articles a while back.

 

Here's a link to them: http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/index.php?topic=7988.0

 

Mine worked fine out of the box. They wear Treso nippples. I filled in the hammer slot. It was not permanent, so I sent them to Lassiter to have the hammer face welded up.

 

They are at the gunsmith now having a pin installed in the hammer channel (an alternative to cap guards).

 

I like them and decided it was time to make them a permanent part of my match guns. (I like to have cap guards on my main match guns)

 

The loading lever is of the creeping variety.

 

They are nice guns, IMHO.

 

--Dawg

Posted

From Capt Baylor's page on

http://www.curtrich.com/GettingStarted03.html

 

 

 

Rowdy Yates, of Lee's Gunsmithing, is the man to talk to about Cimarron
1860s. I'll let him describe the package in his own words: "To make
these guns reliable we install cap guards similar to the original
Cooper. Trim the sides of the hammers about the same width as Remington
and solder in the guards to the frame. With the hammer down this
modification cannot be seen. We also install larger and taller front
sights and square and open the sight notch on the hammer. The action is
smoothed and timed and the sear and hand hardened."


"Forcing cone opened and cylinder edges broken
but not chamfered. The package runs about $150. The sight work is an
additional $65 but well worth it.


"The 60s are a love hate relationship and will definitely not hold up like the Rugers but they are good for style points."

 

Posted

Howdy Pard!

 

I have three of the Uberti 1860's. They have the charcoal blue finish and are very nice to look at. I have not done anything to the sights or hammers, I have put the Treso nipples on them. One is a little tight when it gets dirty so I leave it as a back up. I don't have any problems with the caps falling into the action, but then again, I let the pistols ride up in my hand when I shoot them. I'm not very fast so maybe all that expense and work is worth it if you want to take first place, but if you are just in it for the fun of it, shoot 'em out of the box!

 

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Posted

Thanks for the good info, From the sound of it these are worth picking up and giving a try, I'm not a fast shooter so they may be just fine for me with some minor tuning.

Thanks again

Willy B'

 

Dawg

Thanks for the link to Larsen's Uberti open top tuning pages, I already down loaded the one's for the Pietta 51's but didn't know about the Uberti one.

Posted

For years the Uberti Colts were a much better gun than the Pietta Colts. I used the Pietta '58s for several years and really liked them but went through several + Pietta Colts and never found one that I considered much more than a cheap kit gun when compared to the much better Ubertis BUT the last half dozen Piettas I have purchased have proven to be pretty close to equal in quality. I have close to a dozen Uberti Colt clones and really love them all but my favorites are two pairs of guns that I purchased used from owners who had the really tricked out. I wish I could camp out at Prairy Dawgs door and catch his 'used deals' before they hit the wire. These guns are winners right out of the box and you couldn't buy that much gunsmithing for double his price. OH, do a search for the newer nipples that everyone is talking about, some are picking them over Treso and claim that they eliminate the need for cap guards??? YMMV on this one.

Posted

I've got several and they are nice revolvers.

 

Larsen Pettifogger did a set of "tuning" articles a while back.

 

Here's a link to them: http://www.theopenrange.net/forum/index.php?topic=7988.0

 

Mine worked fine out of the box. They wear Treso nippples. I filled in the hammer slot. It was not permanent, so I sent them to Lassiter to have the hammer face welded up.

 

They are at the gunsmith now having a pin installed in the hammer channel (an alternative to cap guards).

 

 

 

I like them and decided it was time to make them a permanent part of my match guns. (I like to have cap guards on my main match guns)

 

The loading lever is of the creeping variety.

 

They are nice guns, IMHO.

 

--Dawg

Dawg, I just went through the links and did not see the cap guard mod you mentioned. I would like to see more information on that can you direct me to it?
Posted

Rowdy Yates at Lee's Gunsmithing has done two of my 3 sets of guns with cap guards.

He mills out a bit of the recoil shield and puts in a thin sheet with a slot thru it.

Ten mills the hammer to fit thru the slot.

The slot is too thin for the cap to get thru.

100% confidence that no cap will ever get back in the action and ruin my day.

The 3rd pair was done by a machinist in northern california--I bought them already done

 

Colorado Coffinmaker did up a pair of his with a pin in the hammer channel and a slot milled in the hammer face to clear the pin.

He likes the way they turned out, so I gave him a pair of Uberti 1860s to do for me.

 

Pics of cap guards:

http://www.dakotaskipper.net/ebay/capguard_1.jpg

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