Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 My wife is now shooting my Marlin .38-357 but seems to be having Issues with shooting it I did not have.Ocassionally another round gets under the carrier and locks up the gun.I am thinking that she is going back and forth with the lever and not all the way out and that is what is causing the problem.After unjamming the gun I have taken the remaining rounds and shot them with no problems.I am loading to 1.5" so length is not a problem. Aside from switching to a 73/66 which is already a topic of conversation...........any thoughts or suggestions. Sgt H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 SGT, 'Getting UNDER the carrier'? Has someone shortened the tongue on the end of the carrier? First thing to check.....make sure all the screws are properly tightened (snugged). ..........Widder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copenhagen Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Slick Send it to Slick and your problems will go away. Nothing is more agravating than running a good match and having a jam issue with your guns. Throws you off and then you concentrate more on making the gun work correctly than hitting targets. Watched it happen to my boys so...Thats why I have sent both of my Boys Marlins to Slick for the Widdermatic conversions. The money spent on getting it done will more than be repaid by the joy of your wife not having issues with the rifle and ruining her day shooting. Cope Edit: Or listen to the knowledge of Widder!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It may the classic issue of a slightly worn carrier so that it has the "letting in two" problem. Marlin 94 Fix A good smith can fix you up for a lot less than a new rifle. Best bet is to have the full Widdermatic job done of the rifle. Then it will feed any length rounds, be a lot smoother and can be shot faster without issues. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermatic_Marlin.htm http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermajic_Marlin.htm http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermatic_Marlin_Extractor.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 It may the classic issue of a slightly worn carrier so that it has the "letting in two" problem. Marlin 94 Fix A good smith can fix you up for a lot less than a new rifle. Best bet is to have the full Widdermatic job done of the rifle. Then it will feed any length rounds, be a lot smoother and can be shot faster without issues. http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermatic_Marlin.htm http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermajic_Marlin.htm http://marauder.homestead.com/files/Widdermatic_Marlin_Extractor.htm Listem to "Dr." Marauder fixer of sick Marlins. It's an easy fix....IF you know how. That IS a big IF....... Have Marauder doing it is your best bet. LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sgt. Hockbauer said, "I am loading to 1.5" so length is not a problem". Well maybe not, but then again, maybe so. I have seen many Marlins that were "IFFY" on feeding 1.5 OAL loads. Will work well most of the time, but not all the time. This isn't too rare either. I have NEVER seen a Marlin have trouble feeding loads at 1.580 to 1.590, even some that were pretty much worn from use. Like Maurader said, make sure all the action screws are properly tightened and load some ammo with approx. 1.585 OAL, and I'm betting your problem goes away. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 This is a classic "Marlin-jam" that is caused by wear at the point the lever contacts the carrier. Easy fix if your a VERY GOOD welder(TIG or MIG). LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio Brazos Kid Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 This is a classic "Marlin-jam" that is caused by wear at the point the lever contacts the carrier. Easy fix if your a VERY GOOD welder(TIG or MIG). LG This could also be true, IF the carrier is dropping too low, and letting a second cartridge slide in on top of the one already on the carrier. Easy fix by a competent gunsmith using the method lumpy suggested. RBK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Hochbauer, SASS #64409 Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 I do appreciate all the suggestions.............BUT the issue is only when my wife shoots the rifle it works fine when I am shooting it.My thought is how she is levering the action.Could that be a possible cause, or would it just be mechanical. The action on this gun is very slick now. Sgt H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rance - SASS # 54090 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 I reckon that if it only happens when the wife shoots the gun.... Veeeerrrrryyyyyy carefully.. Tell her..... this is where it's gets scarey... Take her out to the range and run the rifle like she's mad at it ... Lever it hard.. forward and back.. Sometimes folks try to run a gun gently and it doesn't perform correctly... Lacey has had this happen maybe once or twice... She turned to me the second time..." Didn't lever it hard enough did I?" Rance Thinkin'... tell her veerryy.. carefully... We want her to be mad at the gun...not you Oh yeah.... I ain't a gunsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder SASS #13056 Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 Tis likely that she is not working the lever as hard as you do. Trying to get her to do that may help, but it may hurt her shooting as she may end up moving the rifle more vertically. The wear on the elevator is progressive. So if you rack the lever more aggressively, it will avoid the problem - for a while. So you wife is not working the lever quite as hard as you do. Take a look at the bottom of the elevator. Do you see a line across it where the finger lever touches it? How deep is it? The standard finger lever has a relatively sharp edge which will eventually put a small line into the elevator - thus wearing the elevator enough to throw off the timing. One the line gets deep enough - and it doesn't take much on some rifles, the problem will intermittently happen. Then eventually happen with more regularity. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 It's called "short-stroke". I hate it when that happens Tell her to "drive-it-like-she-stole-it", that worked for my wife LG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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