Smokestack SASS#87384

No, you must use load data for the powder you are using.

There are still a few clubs which have refused to evolve with the game. They are struggling to survive due to lack of shooters interested in what they offer. I am not saying your opinion is wrong, but you are certainly in the minority.

Well I can only find "shoot where it was" and "engage an alternate target" in one place in the rule book and they are literally in the same sentence. I would assume that they are either both an option or neither an option.

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So shoot where it was would not be an option in this case either? The 10th pistol shot was a miss and caused a P all at once? Not trying to be a PITA, I just don't understand this line of thinking. If shoot where it was IS still an option in this scenario, can you please direct me to the section of the rule. Oils that covers this besides the target failure section? Thanks.

That would be a Rattler John sweep.

If when the shooter completed the 9 rifle targets he shot where the knockdown was it would only be a miss for the 10th pistol shot correct? Instead of shooting where it was, a shooter has the option of shooting an alternate target. I would not give them the P based on that thinking. ROII pg. 8

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A P would only be given for shooting the correct type of target in the wrong order. When you are shooting pistols, the rifle and shotgun targets are treated the same as the berm for scoring purposes.

If you look in the rule book, the part that talks about shooting where it was is under the heading target failure.

Bet ya can't show us that in the rules...

Keep in mind that the bullets must not be seated below the case mouth.

The OP asked if it would be a prop failure. I used target failure to distinguish what happened from a. Prop failure which would allow for a reshoot. Target failures don't. ROII page 8

When he got to the end of the rifle string, the target he was supposed to shoot was no longer standing, hence my use of the words target failure. It did not fail on its own but it failed to be standing when he was supposed to shoot at it. I don't believe that how it came to not be standing comes into play.

1 miss. And a target failure.

It's fun. 4 targets order is 1,2,2,3,3,2,2,3,3,4

Not to take anything away from the MEC, but my Redding single stage is also an iron frame machine.

That works about 1/2 of the time. Often more modification is nessicary.

The phantom trigger is a one piece trigger sear design. For that reason it can not allow the lever safety to work as it was designed. That is why the factory trigger is a 2 piece. The happy trigger works like a factory 2 piece but has a spring in it to remove the flop. The happy trigger will work with the lever safety.

Mollys custom silver has made them for us and they are great.

I agree that it is 2 pistol strings as written. However an argument could have some merit based on the rule which says that a gunfighter may not engage a stage in a manner that other styles can not. This creates a small gray area that I have not thought about before. I would like to hear the opinion of the ROC on this one. If a gunfighter can stage his pistols and retrieve them at the end of the stage I feel like everyone else should have that option. I personally never have done that in a match and don't plan to but that is neither here nor there.

Just make a template and have some cut from AR-500. You won't have to worry about them dimpling again.

These art the things that need to be checked. Some bolts have a tendency to tilt downward at the end of the stroke also and during dryfire with no snap cap, the extractor can sometimes strike the breech face. Also slow timing will cause undue stress on the extractor.