SCOTUS Takes Aim at ‘Firearm’ Definition in SAF’s VanDerStok Case

[Sedalia Dave]

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/scotus-takes-aim-at-firearm-definition-in-safs-vanderstok-case/

[Shepherd Book]

Is it too much to hope that some sanity will be restored to the government?!

[Subdeacon Joe]

Prediction:

The Court will rule 6-3 in favor of our civil rights,  California and New York will double down with laws that make every screw, spring,  and pin a "firearm. "

 

[Subdeacon Joe]

Don't laugh.  That meme is based on a bill that was introduced in the California Legislature a few years ago that was so broad in the definition of "ghost gun" that any chunk of aluminum big enough to be machined into an AR lower, or piece of sheet metal big enough to be stamped into an AK receiver could be considered a functional firearm.  The quote is from the then president of the CA State Senate Kevin "Ghost Gun" de Leon at a press conference talking about the evils of 80% guns.

[Dilli GaHoot Galoot]

9 hours ago, Subdeacon Joe said:

Don't laugh.  That meme is based on a bill that was introduced in the California Legislature a few years ago that was so broad in the definition of "ghost gun" that any chunk of aluminum big enough to be machined into an AR lower, or piece of sheet metal big enough to be stamped into an AK receiver could be considered a functional firearm.  The quote is from the then president of the CA State Senate Kevin "Ghost Gun" de Leon at a press conference talking about the evils of 80% guns.

 

The ATF took essentially the same position on Form 1 suppressors, stating that any part made or intended to be used or modified for use in a 'home built' Form 1 suppressor was already a "suppressor" and each part required a Form 4 for transfer  

[Chickasaw Bill SASS #70001]

How long is the lid gonna stay on the pressure cooker ?

 

as to the BATFE rules , it is like having the FOX guard the hen house 

 

  Chickasaw Bill 

[John Kloehr]

18 hours ago, Dilli GaHoot Galoot said:

 

The ATF took essentially the same position on Form 1 suppressors, stating that any part ...

Oh oh, I might be in trouble. I might have some of these on the shelf...

 

[Dilli GaHoot Galoot]

1 hour ago, John Kloehr said:

Oh oh, I might be in trouble. I might have some of these on the shelf...

 

 

 

[Sedalia Dave]

On 4/26/2024 at 9:57 PM, Dilli GaHoot Galoot said:

 

The ATF took essentially the same position on Form 1 suppressors, stating that any part made or intended to be used or modified for use in a 'home built' Form 1 suppressor was already a "suppressor" and each part required a Form 4 for transfer  

 

I see your point but the idiot that decided to market unfinished suppressors as "Solvent Traps" needs to be shot for being a dumb@$$.  

[John Kloehr]

57 minutes ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

I see your point but the idiot that decided to market unfinished suppressors as "Solvent Traps" needs to be shot for being a dumb@$$.  

And there are these:

 

[Dilli GaHoot Galoot]

2 hours ago, Sedalia Dave said:

 

I see your point but the idiot that decided to market unfinished suppressors as "Solvent Traps" needs to be shot for being a dumb@$$.  

Respectfully disagree 
When Congress passed the legislation that became the NFA they laid out clear guidelines for allowing people to build (or modify) their own short barreled firearms and suppressors, regretfully like almost all other firearms restrictions in our nation history it was based on racism and classism. The $200 tax stamp was equivalent to roughly 2 1/2 months salary for the average person back then and the fact that technology has advanced to the point where a a large machine shop and the skill set to operated are not needed any more doesn’t change what the law laid out.

 

Undrilled “solvent traps” do not meet the NFA definition of a suppressor and if the ATF wants to change that to keep the poors from having suppressors they need to petition Congress to have them pass legislation to amend the NFA

Edited May 2 by Dilli GaHoot Galoot