Captain Bill Burt

I'm ready! I think I'll watch a Western or two to get in the mood.

Hallelujah! Preach it! 5 times a month year round.

Are the stages posted anywhere?

I'm feeling pretty good. Had good matches last Saturday and Sunday clean both of them.

I suggest getting a set of hardened screws from VTI and replacing the originals.

Tell us what you do for both please!

Red’s thirst might put a big dent in Purly’s wallet. Throw in Charlie and Purly might be broke!

Nothing physical. Before and after each stage I have a few routine things I do for mental prep.

I have friends in low places so I'll ask and see if I have any pull. Can we raise the tables about a foot? That will take care of HC.

Sharyn and I will both be there, but I don't know about beating Purly.

Thank you! So the applicable rule would be SHB page 18 "Long guns shall have their actions open with chambers and magazines empty and muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match." That rule has no associated penalty I believe.

I'm going to put my money on Mr. Purly!

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about sweeping yourself, I'm referring to the statement: "chambers and magazines empty and muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match."

I want to be clear that I'm not advocating a particular call, I'm simply playing devil's advocate. I hear the no calls. But don't we have a rule that says the actions must be open and the muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match? Don't we have a rule that says changing location with a long gun, action closed, is a SDQ?

I've often felt there was some uncertainty about the correct call with respect to the rules I'm about to reference, so the intent of this thread is to clarify my understanding of the rule, and perhaps other's understanding as well. My apologies to PWB for stirring this particular pot. Shooter A is moving from one stage to the other with his long guns secured muzzle up in his gun cart. Long guns are empty with open actions. While moving the shooter's double barrel shotgun closes and he doesn't notice it. He continues to the next stage with his shotgun closed muzzle up in his cart. WTC? Shooter B is moving from one stage to the other with his long guns secured muzzle up in his gun cart. Due to the configuration of his cart the muzzles of his long guns are pointed directly at him while he is moving the cart. WTC? Here are what I believe are the pertinent rules from the SHB. SHB page 18 "Long guns shall have their actions open with chambers and magazines empty and muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match." SHB page 23 "Changing location with a long gun with the action closed and the hammer cocked (exception for rifle from the loading table to the stage with no round chambered)." SDQ

Best wishes for a quick complete recovery.

Good to know. I don't know about that BICBW, I've never known you to be wrong about the rules. Thanks

Shootin Sharyn and I hope to be there. We should know by tomorrow if we an make it.

Hi ShadowCatcher. The relevant rule is on page 18 of the SHB. "Long guns shall have their actions open with chambers and magazines empty and muzzles pointed in a safe direction when transported at a match." This rule applies when the gun(s) are in hand, or in the cart, however common sense still applies. Most of our muzzles up gun carts result in the guns being pointed at the person pushing the cart. This is clearly NOT 'a safe direction' but we don't DQ everyone whose cart does that. I seem to recall an unwritten exception for guns that are cased or scabbarded, but I don't remember enough about the thread to search it up. If the gun is cased or in a scabbard it seems to me that it's condition would not be readily clear to anyone and if I were in that position (guns in a scabbard or case) and someone wanted to see whether my gun was open/empty I would probably tell them to mind their own business. If I ever go to EOT I plan to have scabbards for my guns and I also plan to have them closed in the scabbards to keep the dust out.

My first pair lasted 8 years. The insoles are replaceable and only cost about 18. I wore mine until the soles wore through then bought another pair.

I'm not aware of any SASS rule that prohibits barrel down configuration of a cart. For those who think such a rule exists please cite the page number and quote the rule. As some have mentioned there are clubs that don't allow it.

A very small one that doesn't say much. Thank you for moving them in!!

Come on now, Rainmaker caters to what his shooters want, to the extent anyone can. A stand and deliver every now and then isn't the end of the world. We shoot in the rain every now and then (seems like a lot lately). When that happens being able to stay in one place under cover is a plus.

Lube is so cheap I have never considered trying to save money by purchasing it by the gallon. A 1 oz bottle of Rem Oil will probably last a couple of years, I would have to be Methuselah to need a gallon of the stuff. A 12 oz can of CLP will probably last a year. I still have the original bottle of Ballistol I bought back in 2011, as well as a couple more I picked up as door prizes. I like to use the CLP to clean and wipe down all my guns. The Rem Oil (or something similar) goes on very lightly here and there. The Ballistol goes on my boots a few times a year. Every now and then I put a little grease on the workings of our SKBs. Right now I'm using Outers Gun Grease cause that's what WalMart had a few years ago when I was looking. I keep WD-40 in my range bag and on wet days all the guns get a good wipe down with that before they get put in the car. Once I get home they get another wipe down with CLP. I hear a lot of good stuff about Frog Lube so I may pick up some the next time I see it on the shelf.

When the Rainmaker is placing the targets so far out that my sights cover them up completely he makes it a bit easier by letting us stand and deliver all our misses from one spot. (couldn't resist, the devil on my left shoulder won out over the angel on my right shoulder)