New Blackhawk and New Vaquero hammer options

[Giuseppe Calderoni]

I'm wondering about the options for New Blackhawk and New Vaquero hammers.

My understanding is:

There's the Bisley hammer: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004357584?pid=797832

the Super Blackhawk hammer: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004360483?pid=841361

and the Montado hammer: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/102302637?pid=921065

 

Which one's will 'drop in' to a New Blackhawk?

Which one's will 'drop in' to a New Vaquero?

 

I've been told that the Bisley hammer will require a 1/8" channel to be cut in the frame to allow it to be correctly cocked.

Is this the case?  If so, For which gun(s)?

 

 

[Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903]

Super Blackhawk or Montado hammers are typically a drop-in for the Blackhawk or Vaquero but the Bisley hammer requires to frame or the hammer to be modified.

 

Randy

[Tall John]

I’ve installed montano hammers on both of my new vaqueros.  Pretty easy with the exception of dealing with the loading gate spring.  You need three hands an old fork or buy this tool from RW Grip frames for $20

https://rwgripframes-com.3dcartstores.com/loading-gate-spring-depressor.html

 

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

20 minutes ago, Tall John said:

I’ve installed montano hammers on both of my new vaqueros.  Pretty easy with the exception of dealing with the loading gate spring.  You need three hands an old fork or buy this tool from RW Grip frames for $20

https://rwgripframes-com.3dcartstores.com/loading-gate-spring-depressor.html

 

It's actually not that hard once you've done a few.

 

Phantom

[Giuseppe Calderoni]

On 11/29/2023 at 10:10 AM, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:

...  the Bisley hammer requires to frame or the hammer to be modified.

 

Randy

Thank you for confirming that information.

 

Has anybody ever seen documentation on how to modify the Bisley hammer to fit a stock New Model Vaquero or New Model Blackhawk?

 

Also, if anybody is interested, I found a similar thread from the past (and would appreciate it if anyone could post a similar thread or Cowboy Chronicle article on the topic).

 

 

 

[Dantankerous]

Subtle nuances between the Bisley hammer and the Super Blackhawk hammer. You might not notice the difference in the revolver.  The Super Blackhawk hammer would be a much easier swap.

 

I would ask are you shooting one-handed or two?  Reason I ask is with my extra large sized hands I prefer a standard hammer when shooting 2 handed and a Super Blackhawk or Bisley hammer when shooting one-handed. Find what works for your shooting style and handsize before you make any alterations that may be unnecessary.

[Giuseppe Calderoni]

8 minutes ago, Dantankerous said:

I would ask are you shooting one-handed or two? 

I am shooting two handed.  My fingers are probably shorter than average.  In order to thumb the hammer with my support hand, I cannot grab the hand grip, and instead index two fingers off of the trigger guard.  i.e. my support hand is pretty much just hanging off in the air. 

It's less than ideal.

[Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903]

6 hours ago, Giuseppe Calderoni said:

I am shooting two handed.  My fingers are probably shorter than average.  In order to thumb the hammer with my support hand, I cannot grab the hand grip, and instead index two fingers off of the trigger guard.  i.e. my support hand is pretty much just hanging off in the air. 

It's less than ideal.

When shooting two-handed (which I haven’t done in years) my strong hand grips the revolver and pulls the trigger, my weak hand only cocks the hammer. 
 

Randy

 

[Phantom, SASS #54973]

16 hours ago, Giuseppe Calderoni said:

I am shooting two handed.  My fingers are probably shorter than average.  In order to thumb the hammer with my support hand, I cannot grab the hand grip, and instead index two fingers off of the trigger guard.  i.e. my support hand is pretty much just hanging off in the air. 

It's less than ideal.

It's not a semi-auto... Your off hand is fine with just your index finger on the front of the trigger guard.

 

Phantom

[Rattlesnake Slim]

In the one year that I shot two handed, I found my lowered hammers to be a problem. It seemed my cocking thumb would hit the web of my strong hand, resulting in the hammer slipping loose and having to do the dreaded Ruger-go-around.