Students fend off intruder with legal gun; face potential expulsion for school violation

[Subdeacon Joe]

http://m.gonzagabulletin.com/mobile/news/article_9c59881a-4772-11e3-b99e-001a4bcf6878.html

 

 

Roommates Erik Fagan and Dan McIntosh, both seniors, may be expelled
this week after they used McIntosh’s pistol to repel a late-night
trespasser from the doorway of their 207 E. Sinto Ave. apartment.

Fagan
answered a 10:15 p.m. knock on their front door Thursday, Oct. 24. A
friend having just left their apartment, he assumed the friend had come
back. Instead, John Michael Taylor, a felon who showed them his ankle
bracelet tracker in an attempt to intimidate them, faced him. Taylor
asked Fagan for money, and became agitated when Fagan turned him down.

When
he sensed Taylor might enter the apartment, Fagan yelled for McIntosh,
who brandished his pistol, for which he has a concealed weapons permit.
Taylor quickly fled. Little did they know, removing Taylor from their
doorway would lead to potential university sanctions.

Fagan, 21,
and McIntosh, 23, rent their two-bedroom off-campus apartment, No. 5,
from owner Gonzaga University. Complications arose after the men called
both the Spokane Police and CAMPO to report the trespasser, in doing so
declaring the pistol to SPD Officer Adam Valdez. SPD quickly apprehended
the suspect, who was arrested on outstanding felony warrants. Valdez
congratulated the students for safely warding off a possibly dangerous
menace.

[Forty Rod SASS 3935]

Cousin John just can't stay out of trouble. He should thank the kid for not scattering his vastly under-used brain all over the walls.

[Tell Sackett SASS 18436]

If they lived off campus, what trouble could they be in? The university can tell them what to do off campus???

Oh, I see now. The UNIVERSITY owned the apartment. Figures.

[Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355]

I suppose, one has to look at the lease to see what is written in it. Then again, as far as the actual university goes, I suspect it depends upon how/what the university properly conveyed to the students about university policy regarding student behavior related to firearms and attendance.

 

With my son now in colledge some of the things you see in a lease or in the colledge terms & conditions are not very specific in this regard.

[Oklahoma Dee]

Washington STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION

 

The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

 

 

 

I am not sure where a state provision applies, in a case like this, but hope that they come out well.

 

OkD

[Subdeacon Joe]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/11/university-to-review-policy-after-students-punished-for-scaring-intruder-with/

 

SPOKANE, Wash. – Gonzaga University in Washington state is going to review its weapons policy.

This, after two students who used a pistol to chase an intruder from
their apartment door found themselves on probation for having guns -- in
violation of a ban on firearms in university-owned housing.

The school's president says Gonzaga is "a Jesuit institution
dedicated to thoughtful evaluation of complex social issues," and that
it will use the incident to re-examine its policy on guns.

A lawyer for students Erik Fagan and Daniel McIntosh says the school should consider student safety above all else.

[Virgil Ray Hality, SASS# 37355]

if they are wise, they will deliberate on it for a very long time.