Stoeger Blues II

[Come On Christmas]

I noticed that the right firing pin does not protrude as far as the left one does after firing. I am still inconsistent on making the right cylinder go boom.

 

I replaced the pins with the Longhunter pins. The pin in question that I replaced had a dimple on the business end.

 

A pard at the range said that the double triggers are finicky about the depth of the primer. It just so happens one of my Lee Load All II leaves the primers a little high. Should I jest shoot shells from this loader? (I have one Lee Load All for smokeless and one for black Powder.)

 

Shameless

[Garrison Joe, SASS #60708]

You will never be completely satisfied if you leave the gun in shape that requires specially loaded ammo to make the right side work.

 

Check for anything still limiting the FP protrusion on the right side (burrs on the hole through the standing breech, dirt, weak internal hammer hit). It may be about time to send it in to a good double-gun smith for a look-see if you don't find the cause. Careful enough inspection combined with enough knowledge of how it should work needs to be applied until the problem is found and properly corrected. Some of that inspection would involve careful measurements with mikes or calipers. Exactly what a good gunsmith does.

 

Good luck, GJ

 

 

(Intentionally leaving primers high causes other problems, like - the primer is not fully seated, so instead of popping when the first pin hits it, it slides forward to become fully seated. Then the second hit on the primer sets if off.)

[jimmyb.1]

I missed your post of Stoeger Blues I but I surmise from the second posting that it deals w/ a barrel not going bang. My Stoeger did the same and I followed the same path of replacement parts that you appear to have done. You'll have to pull the gun apart but the hole that the hammer spring is compressed in possibly has a burr causing the spring to hang up resulting in a lite primer strike. It was my problem.

[Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933]

Stoeger's are super simple mechanisms. Unfortunately, figuring out why this simple mechanism doesn't work is often difficult, especially without seeing the gun and having someone else explain what they think is the problem. I can't remember part I. But is this gun stock, what mods have you made? Have the chambers been funneled? Have you checked the fore end to make sure the screws are tight and that there is nothing in the fore end blocking the reset levers? Have you reversed the triggers? Etc., etc.

[Rio Brazos Kid]

Your reloads could be as much of the problem as anything else. Dished in shell cases can be a real problem. If the case heads are flat as they should be, then a fully seated primer, (battery cup flush with the case head), should not give any problem at all.

 

Rarely, you find a batch of primers that the primer it'self is set too low in the battery cup, but again that is a very rare condition.

 

If everything checks out OK with the ammo, then spending a few bucks with a good COWBOY gunsmith who's familiar with the Stoegers is probably the best route to take, although an individual with good mechanical ability can possibly pull the stock and figure out the problem. Could be burrs or even wood clearance retarding the hammer fall, or weak springs are among the several possibilities. Putting in the Longhunter firing pins is also a very good thing.

 

Good luck in finding the problem.

 

One more thing. I would be looking seriously at replacing those Lee LoadAlls with a MEC Sizemaster or 600 JR.. Once you have one, and use it a while, you will be very glad you did.

 

RBK

[The Original Lumpy Gritz]

How does factory loads work?

X2 on dump'n those Lee's.

LG

[Al OVERA, SASS#26238 Life]

I noticed that the right firing pin does not protrude as far as the left one does after firing. I am still inconsistent on making the right cylinder go boom.

 

I replaced the pins with the Longhunter pins. The pin in question that I replaced had a dimple on the business end.

 

A pard at the range said that the double triggers are finicky about the depth of the primer. It just so happens one of my Lee Load All II leaves the primers a little high. Should I jest shoot shells from this loader? (I have one Lee Load All for smokeless and one for black Powder.)

 

Shameless

I've never had a problem with my Stoegers, never even replaced the firing pins. BUT, a fellow shooter had one that had problems with the right barrel. We went thru it several times, threw some parts at it, and all at once found the problem!! The right hammer was dragging on the stock. Removal of a little wood, and all was good to go. He has't had a problen since. Might be worth looking at, it's a cheap fix if it is the problem.

 

Al

[Come On Christmas]

It's a single trigger model.

 

I love my Lee Load All. No other problems with ammo in any other Of my Shotgunz.

 

Shameless