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People live where they live for a variety of reasons. I was born in AZ and have chosen to stay. My siblings left AZ in search of careers and succeeded in other states. I believe that everyone understands once you set your roots down, families begin and traditions follow. Every state in the west has changed, both for better and worse. AZ has water issues because so many want to green it up just as it was where they came from. In almost all cases, the general populace has very little influence on that change for the following reason. Change is normally voter based, apathy on the part of the voters has hurt the once norms of all societies and communities. I urge all peoples to vote informed, be passionate and educated. All too often those with conservative values do not allow themselves to be heard. Get involved wherever your home is, impact change and embrace your family wherever you call home. Many from CA have left while many have chose to stay, last time I checked we are all free to live where we choose. God speed to those dedicated individuals in those extreme leftist states that are fighting the fight.

I shoot with Fast Eddie almost every Saturday throughout the year and he told me he preferred to not have his contact info provided publicly. I've sent PMs to anyone who has asked on this thread. There are any number of folks here on the Wire who also have his contact info, I am not his agent! I'm just following what Fast Eddie told me to do. Fast Eddie is also on the Wire but he doesn't post very often. He does have a profile here on the Wire and you can send him a PM directly if you prefer to. Kajun

Life's too short to fight all the time. 30 years ago I Iived in Maryland, I got out of there and found a place that was more compatible with my way of thinking. I could care less if people talk smack about Maryland, it's not my idea of an ideal environment for shooters and outdoorsmen. Many people have never lived anywhere except the state they were raised, they have no idea there may be a better place to live.

From the article: “We’d have the opportunity for a national gun policy do-over.” I have an idea Mr. Berler. How about we have a First Amendment “Do Over”. A “do over” where anyone voicing un-American un-Constitutional ideals is branded a Traitor. How would that be Mr. Berler? And, Mr. Berler, the Constitution is not a freakin’ “policy”. You leftist piece of garbage. I think I will send this scumbag an email tomorrow.

Your turn to buy a round.

I don't think any specific rule change is necessary. My opinion: I would vote NO RESHOOT based on the one shooter having a problem navigating the stage in the manner described by the OP. BUT...because that particular situation deemed it a safety issue that it was later removed for everyone else, then YES, I would vote for a RESHOOT under those circumstances. AND furthermore, I would allow those who already shot the stage an option for a reshoot OR, throw out the stage for EVERYONE. ..........Widder

I can't condemn the good folks that live in California, New York, New Jersey, etc. Most just have to deal with the hand that God dealt them. I just thank God every day that I was born, raised, and live in Sweet Home Alabama.

We will never change to minds of the libs, but if enough people write and use other mens to advocate for gun rights we will change their vote! They will fight to save their jobs. I've had people tell me they don't belong to the NRA for (enter stupid reason here.) Many of them belong to other pro-gun organizations...who are never named by the media or mentioned by politicians. I'm not saying they aren't good, even somewhat effective groups, but the big Boogey Man in congress is the NRA. It costs about as much as a meal for two at a decent restaurant or couple of tickets to a movie for an annual membership. Imagine forty or fifty thousand new members by 2020. The Dems would panic to try to save their jobs, but now imagine a half million or more by election day. And once we've done that we'll have to do it ll over again every single day because these "Progressive" idiots will never give up. Never should we.

Well, I will pray for love, healing, health, understanding, and God's grace for you and for your family and friends. May his blessings fall upon you and yours.

There are many things about California I like. We lived there until I was 7. Still have relatives there in Concord and Moro Bay. Had some great times there at Ft. Ord and wine country vacations decades later. The state government is hideously incompetent of course. I can only hope things change for the better for the sake of my friends and family in the future.

He did indeed. Remember when that kid's appearance would have been considered unkempt and slovenly?

Thank you for all your work teaching kids, Bob.

My experience measuring Red Dot - it has fed through Dillon and Lyman powder measures just fine for pistol cartridge size powder drops. Do a few fine grain powders feed more accurately? Yes. But is RD able to be metered accuratly enough for most Cowboy work? I believe so. Good luck, GJ

Stand on your bathroom scale with it in your hands. Then set it down. Subtract the second from the first. WaLa!

I'll admit that I have my shortcomings, but you guys act like I don't know my business. I've been going to the potty all by myself for several years now. My wife and I have been married to one another for 45 years come the 22d of this month and she has seen to it. And, I have my wife trained exactly the way she wants me!

Alas, I "know a thing or two because I've seen a thing or two," may apply, and not in a positive way like the Farmer's commercials imply. I've been subjected to EXTREME negativity for calling things according to the SHB that were let slide at monthly matches. My theory on rules is as follows. "Don't blame me for trying to see that the rules of the game are followed, as there is no honor in doing well when you did not follow the rules."

I know a few who would really like this.

Um...for someone to give you directions to get you unlost they need to know where you are. If you can tell them where you are, you aren't lost.

you guys have more $$ than I do.

Holy Cow, I had forgot about those! My great aunt had them mounted on both sides of her car, pointed straight out to the side, front and rear. Her driveway was extremely narrow to get to her garage which was behind her house, especially since she liked really big wide cars. She had them feelers sticking straight out so she could tell if she was too close to the house or the fence! Miss her and my great uncle a bunch, she was from "backwoods barefoot Kentucky" and had stories to tell. She married up to my great uncle who was from the better side of town. Back in the '20's when he was a little kid, he got a job with the local gangsters. They would dress him nice and put him in the backseat of a real nice car that was full of moonshine and drive him around like he was a rich kid. Then they paid him a bunch. He couldn't take the money home so he and all his friends would spend the day at the movies eating as much candy and drinking as much cola as they could to use up the money. When he got old enough to hit the pedals in the cars, he started driving for the moonshiners. My first gen Colt was his, handed down thru my dad to me. Oops, got off the subject a bit...

You just can't make up this crap! The Dems should be re-named "Huggies" as they are all "self absorbed and full of S#@T".

Just don't milk the bull. Er... try to milk the bull.

I'll have to try that next you're buying

-ditto- Just finished a Louis L'amour kick, time to check out some more Reacher.

Allie, I actively participated in constructive actions for the entire 40 years that I lived in California. I truly feel that those actions were a waste of my time and effort. I'm sorry that so many of your fellow Californians don't seem to care enough to simply write a letter (Not punching a button or adding your name to a list of protestors. Those DO NOT work.) I couldn't even get my closest gun owning friends to write a letter to the editor or to their elected officials, many would not even spend the price of a meal for two to join the NRA, and virtually none would visit a politician's off ice to express their views, yet many would call me daily anf gripe about the state going to hell. I Forty's comment strikes a note that is not limited to California. Nothing gripes me more than people of our generation constantly complaining about the way things are going, constantly preaching to their own choir, shaking their canes and their fists--- and doing nothing. Never showing up to council meetings. Never writing intelligent letters to officials, newspapers, on and on. Not voting!-- Futility and ineffectuality! I just wrote a 3-page detailed letter to our city council about a firearms tax issue that's being floated-- with real information about the history and practice of shooting sports locally-- not just a rant. Will it do any good? I only know that, for sure, nothing will if I do nothing. I've written guest editorials for the local paper, letters to the editor-- they get printed because I take the time to do it right. (This is a city of 200,000.) My wife is a local elected official, having run 5 times hitherto. I ran for .public office twice years ago-- I mercifully lost, but still, I did throw my hat in the ring. There was a very discouraging interview in Guns Magazine recently of Alan Gottleib, the president of the Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. He pointed out that their statistics show that gun owners actually vote at a somewhat poorer rate that the already poor rate of the general population. Give up when you're dead. Until then, never give up.

Probably some other threads on this, but I didn't find any. Have any of y'all seen it yet? It'll be coming through NE OK a week from Saturday. My current plans are to drive to up to Ft Gibson and film it crossing the Neosho River. Link to schedule: https://www.up.com/heritage/steam/schedule/index.htm And a link to a tracking page: https://www.up.com/forms/steam-trace.cfm

Big Boy has been on the tracks behind my house a couple times this year. It's loud and makes alot of steam. Folks were parked on the roadside tailgating waiting for it to pass.

Mary Ann, Ford F150 and Ruger.

Yes.

Pat Riot's wise counsel about bass fishing is sound! Keep a fine stone in your Tackle Box and keep your hooks absolutely sharp ... you are in for a treat! Delighted at your change!

Whether the shooter is the victim or the perp needs to be established.

4 misses

Go with the comp. They don't add much weight but tend to work better than loose shot because the forward movement of the mercury offsets the recoil without adding a bunch of weight. You will want to change the angle when you cut and mount the new pad. Most shotguns are setup for arial targets. but we shoot toward the ground. What happens is the sharp angel tends to dig in and the ladies tend to drop the back end and then tend to shoot high over the targets. My rule as to how long the stocks need to be for the ladies is with the gun shouldered, the thumb of the trigger finger hand should be about 2” but not more than 3” from her nose. This allows more bend in the elbow. Anytime the elbow is extended beyond 90 degree she will have a tuff time holding the gun up.

A no call for a rifle moved from the LT to the line with a cocked hammer is IMHO a discrepancy to the very first rule of gun safety which is "Treat every firearm always as if it were loaded." A bit exaggerated: What's next? No call for having a person swept if the gun just goes *click* afterwards? Would follow the same logic... Just my opinion, Equanimous P.S.: Maybe the penalty should be changed to an hour of practice of safe gun handling..?

Sorry to hear this. I enjoyed the one match I shot there in 2013. Guess I waited too long for another visit!

Seeing we are not "seeing", everything is "opinion". I can think of several people to blame besides the shooter. Who wrote the stage? Who set up the stage? Who built the stage? Obstruction of the shooting practice, is not a safety to the shooter obstruction. So now we are closely approaching a "Failure to engage" penalty? We are getting close to splitting hairs with the rules. Also getting close to intentionally trying to eliminate a competitor from the running. Not every shooter shoots a stage the same way. If the 5th shooter shoots a sequence that results in an unforeseen fall and gun drop (under no fault of their own), there is no reason for everyone to require an auto re-shoot. The point is, someone fixed the obstruction because it was an obvious obstruction for that particular stage sequence. What happened to the benefit of the doubt going to the shooter? Dropping a gun is a safety to others, just as a stage obstruction creates a safety issue to all. Fix it and move on. Be thankful not one got hurt. You don't need to intentionally destroy someone's day over something no one noticed. It's called an accident.

I just found/bought 2 original model stainless consc serial # Ruger 4 3/4" vaqueros. But-----they are 32/20's with extra 32 H&R mags. Ruger only made 230 some of 'em with that barrel length and I now have 2 of 'em! Can't post a photo for awhile 'cause we've got a BS law in Wa state, says I've gotta wait for the local law to do the NIC check, when they get around to it. Keep going to them gunshows, never know what you might find!

Ruth Vader Ginsburg

And they'll smell minty fresh!

Mike old buddy

I have to disagree. The wrong thought that I had to reenact is what kept me from joining sass a year or two sooner. I actually dislike anything to do with a factual reenactment. I realize there are people in sass that LOVE it. I support their decision dress the part down to the socks, and applaud them for it. Makes it fun, just not my cup of tea. Next time we shoot together, introduce yourself. I like meeting new people. I enjoy knowing most of 'em. I haven't been shooting much longer than you. There is time for anything, and anyone can get beat on any given day A lot can be said about this^. Have you done anything to your guns to make them function better? Do you have a short stroke? There are shooters that have not. Does that mean you will statistically beat them? You say me getting the lever lock is a disadvantage to you because you trained yourself not to jack rounds out, and don't need it. I made the gun better, not me. Well, have you also spent 2 hours a day working on new transitions? Have you put forth the effort to come up with new transitions to improve your stage time? Do you work on target acquisition? Do you practice, or are the matches your practice? This means a heap more than ANY gun modification. Me too. I don't know anybody that spends the money to shoot a big match for just a buckle. Heck, you can buy one for 35 bucks and save the hassle if its not fun. This is absolutely incorrect. I am glad you brought that up. I get an oob pretty regularly. This should solve my problem and be safer for me. A good side note is this: If I have opening pressure on the lever when the hammer falls, the round may not fire because the lock will absorb hammer force. You do not have the rifle holstered. No, you do NOT have to open the lever to show clear before the stage is over. After the stage is over point the rifle down range and pull the trigger, the same way you have to do with a pistol. Easy peasy. Yes, you can just lower the hammer with this device. By the way, the only way to stage a rifle for future use on the stage is empty or hammer fully down on a spent round. So in that case it is moot. Zero shooters are shooting the same guns anyway. It is only skewed to you. The lever lock also provides the same advantage to all that have it. Since you have a shortstroke, how would you feel if someone said the only reason you fire your rifle faster was that short stroke? After all, you don't have to fully lever your rifle. You gonna spot the non short stroked rifles a couple seconds? If not, it's kinda like the pot calling the kettle black. I feel great. Don't you feel good after a nice rifle run with that short stroke in it? I don't know about the at any cost part, but it is cowboy action shooting. It is about speed, otherwise we wouldn't get penalized for misses by adding 5 seconds. We would be shooting for high score on target hits. I do look forward to meeting you. Coming to state this year?

Johnny Meadows. He’s done four of them for me over the years. All ran flawlessly until I caused them not to. He then got them back up and running in the blink of an eye. All that that being said, he might have just retired.

Woodfox

Wow....just got am email that our club, the Windy Gap Regulators, has lost our agreement for the range we have been using for 16 or 17 years. Just blows me away! I havn't shot in a few months because of shoulder issues, but sure didn't see this coming. Utah Bob and I both are members and shoot there. Sad deal.............