fatboy harley Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 the firing pin appears to hang up in the bolt at the protruding opening. Rounds hang up while cycling ,thing they are catching on firing pin , may be bent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Harley, Can you call me? 865 / 696-1996 Its a lot easier to tell you how to verify its the firing pin issue and how to fix it. ..........Widder 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Would like to hear the fix for this, when all is done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 18 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Would like to hear the fix for this, when all is done. Howdy Lumpy. I'll share all the info on the test and results/fix. As you know, there is an instant spot in opening the lever that retracts the firing pin. Without trying to type out how to test whether its a lever issue, firing pin issue, or bolt channel issue, its probably easier to talk with Harley and then determine the situation and cure. If its actually the Firing Pin, the cure will be fairly easy and simple........ assuming its not the firing pin alignment with the firing pin hole. Hope you are doing well. Catch ya later. ..........Widder 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Howdy Lumpy. I'll share all the info on the test and results/fix. As you know, there is an instant spot in opening the lever that retracts the firing pin. Without trying to type out how to test whether its a lever issue, firing pin issue, or bolt channel issue, its probably easier to talk with Harley and then determine the situation and cure. If its actually the Firing Pin, the cure will be fairly easy and simple........ assuming its not the firing pin alignment with the firing pin hole. Hope you are doing well. Catch ya later. ..........Widder I had to smooth the FP hole in the bolt of my '82, .44 Carbine to get the one piece FP to slide easily. Do'n great, as I hope you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 UPDATE: Fatboy Harley contacted me and basically, he had already checked out the firing pin and it appeared that it wasn't hitting the hole in the bolt as smooth as needed. Actually, it had a slight bend in the pin. He replaced it with a new pin, which seems to be correct and sit inside the bolt channel correctly. His new pin freely 'rattles' inside the bolt when he shakes it. He also checked the functioning of his firing pin in relationship to the lever being slightly opened. With his hammer cocked and the FP flush at the rear of the bolt, he SLOWLY and slightly opened his lever to see the firing pin protrude rearward about 1/4"..... which it should. With the lever still slightly opened, he pushed forward on the firing pin, which made the lever 'jiggle' just a little, then when he removed his finger from the rear of the firing pin, it freely pushed backwards again about 1/4", which tells us there is no drag or resistance on the FP inside the bolt channel. Lumpy, I hope I explained this situation and not made it confusing. When 'some' One Piece firing pins feel 'sticky' inside the bolt, its caused by the front shape of the one piece FP in relationship to the shape of the front of the channel cut inside the bolt. To remedy this type situation, the 1 piece FP 'collar' area can be slightly rounded to remove its edge. NOTE: The collar is the area of the FP where the angle shape meets the diameter of the FP body. This shape doesn't always fit right with the inside of the bolt channel at the front section. ..........Widder 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 15 hours ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: UPDATE: Fatboy Harley contacted me and basically, he had already checked out the firing pin and it appeared that it wasn't hitting the hole in the bolt as smooth as needed. Actually, it had a slight bend in the pin. He replaced it with a new pin, which seems to be correct and sit inside the bolt channel correctly. His new pin freely 'rattles' inside the bolt when he shakes it. He also checked the functioning of his firing pin in relationship to the lever being slightly opened. With his hammer cocked and the FP flush at the rear of the bolt, he SLOWLY and slightly opened his lever to see the firing pin protrude rearward about 1/4"..... which it should. With the lever still slightly opened, he pushed forward on the firing pin, which made the lever 'jiggle' just a little, then when he removed his finger from the rear of the firing pin, it freely pushed backwards again about 1/4", which tells us there is no drag or resistance on the FP inside the bolt channel. Lumpy, I hope I explained this situation and not made it confusing. When 'some' One Piece firing pins feel 'sticky' inside the bolt, its caused by the front shape of the one piece FP in relationship to the shape of the front of the channel cut inside the bolt. To remedy this type situation, the 1 piece FP 'collar' area can be slightly rounded to remove its edge. NOTE: The collar is the area of the FP where the angle shape meets the diameter of the FP body. This shape doesn't always fit right with the inside of the bolt channel at the front section. ..........Widder Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 On 8/19/2024 at 11:38 AM, Widder, SASS #59054 said: 22 minutes ago, The Original Lumpy Gritz said: Just for curiosity's sake, can a one-piece firing pin work in a pre-1900 Marlin 1894? No, I haven't taken it apart yet., Just wanted to see if y'all had any experience with 'em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widder, SASS #59054 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 8 minutes ago, McCandless said: Just for curiosity's sake, can a one-piece firing pin work in a pre-1900 Marlin 1894? No, I haven't taken it apart yet., Just wanted to see if y'all had any experience with 'em. Personally, I don't know. I aint sure anyone has ever given me a pre 1900 model to check out. ..........Widder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCandless Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 1 minute ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said: Personally, I don't know. I aint sure anyone has ever given me a pre 1900 model to check out. ..........Widder I lucked into an 1899 44W about 2 years ago. Really nice, but I haven't used it in a match yet. So, far just target shooting. Functions nice, but was considering lightening the mainspring, the lever plunger, the lever safety, and a one-piece. I have 2 guns on the bench before that, so I'll get to it once't I find a round tuit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original Lumpy Gritz Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 58 minutes ago, McCandless said: Just for curiosity's sake, can a one-piece firing pin work in a pre-1900 Marlin 1894? No, I haven't taken it apart yet., Just wanted to see if y'all had any experience with 'em. I don't know, never had one apart. Be interested in finding out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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