Clarification on Pale Rider class

[Three Dram Sam]

I’m finding conflicting information as to what shotguns are allowed in the pale rider class, I understand that it isn’t an official class but wondering if generally speaking I will be able to use my 1897 or will be using the side by side. 
 

Thanks in advance! 

[PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L]

I would suggest contacting the Match Director of the club offering that category.

[Prairie Dawg, SASS #50329]

It's for full-load BP shooters:
Load requirements:
Revolver and Rifle
40 caliber and above
200 grain projectile
25 grains by volume of bp or SASS-approved bp substitute
*note: 38-40 shooters may use a 180 grain projectile BUT must use 30 grains by volume of bp/sub.

Shotgun
Double or 87 Only
60 grs by volume of bp/sub
1 1/8 oz or more of shot

Cap & Ball shooters
30 grains by volume of bp/sub

The category is shot duelist style. Double duelist is allowed.

There is now also a Pale Rider Gunfighter category
--Prairie Dawg

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Both of these posts were written by me in 2007 on The Open Range forum.

 

It all stems from the Kentucky State Championship match at Hooten Old Town Regulators. 

 

They have several categories:

 

Champeenship of the Hillbilly Nation (CHN)

 

Competitors can sign up for the main match in FCD, Duelist, Classic, or other as long as they adhere to FCD equipment and guidelines. All pistols are shot in the SASS Duelist category manner. Double duelist is allowed.

 Pistols :

250 or heavier gr. boolits and full 45 LC cases of FF 777 (touching the base of the boolit- no cookies, cards, fiber wads, cereal, caulking rod, or any other fillers). 777 Only

 Rifle :

Rifle caliber must be 38 WCF, 44 WCF, 44 Mag or 45 LC and loaded with 777 to touch the boolit base (180 gr minimum). No loads broken down. 777 only

 Shotgun :

Double barrel or '87 shotgun firing a 60 grain powder charge and 1 1/8 oz. shot (both minimums). Any type of BP powder or subs for Shotgun.

 

 Sultan of Smoke (SoS)

 

Shooters from the SASS BP Match definition of the categories of FCD, Frontiersman, Duelist, Sr. Duelist, Classic Cowboy and Others are eligible. ie One Handed only.

All pistols are shot in the SASS Duelist category manner. Double duelist is allowed, see below for gunfighters.

 Pistols and Rifle:

 40 cal and up - 200 grain and up - 25 grains of powder and up

38-40 - 180 grain - 30 grains of powder and up

Cap and Bal. 44 cal and up - round ball - 30 grains of powder and up

 Powder:

Real Black

Pyrodex

777

APP or Pinnacle and other Black Powder Substitutes ARE allowed

 

Shotgun:

60 grains of any powder (including APP and Pinnacle) 1 1/8 oz shot

same as CHN

Double barrel and 87

97 is not allowed

 

 King of Kaboom (KoK)

 Same rules as SoS, however, two handed shooting is allowed.

  

Notes

 

Duelist can enter KoK if desired

Gunfighers can more than likely enter KoK. Final says is up to match officials.

 

These category requirements, as well as Pale Rider & Pale Rider GunFighter are pretty common in this part of the country.

But, as it is an unofficial category, requirements might vary where  other folks shoot.

--Dawg

 

Note: I believe Champeen of the Hillbilly Nation now allows the use of Black Powder, and not just 777.

 

 

 

[Three Dram Sam]

I had thought that would be the answer, I suppose I’ll have to get good with my SxS reload. Thanks for the help! 

[Desert Pete SASS #42168]

What PaleWolf said.  I shot full power 45 Colt at a state shoot and the MD ‘suggested’ that that much powder behind a 250 grain bullet was not necessary.  My posse loved it.  

[Matthew Duncan]

8 hours ago, Desert Pete SASS #42168 said:

...  I shot full power 45 Colt at a state shoot and the MD ‘suggested’ that that much powder behind a 250 grain bullet was not necessary...

 

"necessary"?  Kinda of sounds like the folks that say a magazine capacity over 10 rounds ain't necessary either...