H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

I have had signature required deliveries of handguns just left on my doorstep. The delivery men don't care.

Saw the title of thread and thought, is it for the centerfire version of the .22LR? Then I saw thing. "Oh yeah. Die can mean 'one dice.'"

How are these events with 5 shots being done safely with the fairly typical 5 shot revolvers with no safety notch? Hammer would have to be down on a loaded chamber.

Right off the bat, there are a plethora of "old timey" pocket pistols out there in calibers ranging from .32 Short Colt to some obscure, mostly foreign, .45 caliber cartridges. There are double and single action revolvers as well. The most common calibers are probably .32 S&W, .32 S&W Long and .38 S&W. While the vast majority of our types of pocket pistols are over, will soon be over, 100 years old, pocket pistol does not automatically mean antique. Nor does it mean worn out, or, depending on make, model and date of manufacture, black powder only. Among other things, I have an antique S&W that the gunsmith who sold it to me thinks has never been fired, for example. All of my pockets are in shootable shape, and only about half of them are black powder only pistols. And, believe it or not, there were some pocket pistols that are SASS legal that were made well into the middle part of the 20 century. That being said, I have seen two types of pocket pistol side matches. 1. Speed. Usually 4 shots on alternating targets. (Some pocket pistols are 6 shot revolvers and some are 5 shot, based on size/caliber, so they tend to be set at 4 rounds for safety.) I actually won one of these one year! 2. Accuracy. Usually a paper target with 4 bullseyes on it. Shot(s) closest to the bull wins. Haven't won this one, but it is fun to try. I have also read of side matches where the pocket pistol takes the place of a main match pistol in an otherwise similar to a main match stage, but have never seen one. Would be eager to try it if I was at a shoot with one.

Cutting off the threads would make things too short. Not an option. I'll figure it out.

Actually, this is my rifle... https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-tc86-takedown-16-5-45-70-lc1-220100.html Same size thread, it seems.

I have a Taylor's 1886 with a threaded barrel. This is the cap that protects the threads... According to the rules, this cap is not SASS legal because it is not smooth. That makes perfect sense. Sadly, a replacement smooth cap does not exist. Query: Would smoothing out rough part make the cap legal, or would the then created depression need to "filed in" somehow?

Well, mine does not have that gap, so I'd say it's a crack. On the one hand, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. On the other hand, that doesn't look right, and it might lead to problems later if left alone. I assume this is a .22 Long, and will only get CB ammo, but I'd still be concerned about the opening. If it were mine, I'd have it fixed. I'd go to Lassiter, myself.

I have a nice Chiappa 1886 that I am thinking needs a minor action job. The action itself is smooth and workable, but it's a little "heavy" and stiff in spots. I am not interested in turning it into a race gun, just having it be more smooth, like a real vintage Winchester. I did check with a local well known 92 smith, knowing that they are essentially the same thing, just one is bigger than the other, but he said he doesn't work on 86's. Can anyone recommend someone?

I have shot gunfighter twice. Once, there was a split pistol stage. I drew left pistol and shot the first 5 pistol targets. Did the other stuff. Went to where the second 5 pistols were, drew the right pistol and shot the 5 targets. In other words, I shot that one one stage "double duelist style." According to the rules, this is a perfectly legal way to do it. And simple.

I am working on a project, and when I am done, I'll have something that I think could be SASS Legal. How/whom do I ask to look at what I have come up with and ask them to decide if it is legal or not for Main Match use, or for other uses?

I have one of these... It's an 86. I gave alreadt replaced the tactical sights with conventional ones. I plan to replace that oversized foregrip with a "regular" one cuz I don't like the look/feel of the overly fat one. As you can see, it has a cap on the threaded barrel. the barrel is 16.5" long, including the threads. The threads are .5". I am not gonna cut off the threads as I am afraid that I'd wind up with a barrel length of 15-31/32" or something like that and run afoul of NFA '34. It's a .45-70, obviously. Now, it is of course, not main match legal, but would make for side matches where you need this kind of a cartridge. For the record, I can't get that cap off, it's REALLY screwed on tight. That being said, I'd be happy to replace it with a "smooth" cap if that would make a difference. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. I bought this gun mostly for the fun of having it. If I can't use it is side matches, it's no loss, but it would be nice to be able to do so.

When talking specifically about original Winchesters, I'd say there is a preference for takedown, simply because back in the day, Winchester made far more takedown 97s than they did solid frames. To this day, I have seen only 1 original Winchester 97 solid frame, and it was a Trench Gun. Granted, I am not a huge sample, but that's what I have seen. Interestingly all of the reproductions are solid frames. Go figure. Me, I have 3 originals, all are take downs. I also have a reproduction Trench Gun, a 9397 and a real 93. They are all solid frame. When all is said and done, I prefer the takedown; it's easier to clean.

Thanks for defining MDF. It is a nice looking thing, but doubt it would stand up to being turned into a cart. Others have mentioned how it looks like a wall mounted rack from a place like Mayberry, and I do think it'd be great for that, but given our current realities, I'm hesitant to have a nice rack like this, or even a gun cabinet. Everything needs to go in a safe.

Other than shotgun targets, reactive targets seem to be pretty rare these days. Shotgun last solves quiet problem. Is reloads really a thing anymore? Spotters have to watch closely.

MDF?

Dittos

Let's assume that "caliber" and "cartridge" are the same for purposes of this discussion. That would mean that, if you have one, a rifle in .38 Short Colt would be legal.

Generally speaking, none of my rifles have been slicked up, and I do just fine. Granted, I am not a top tier shooter, but my rifles all seem to work the they way they are supposed to. (A mixture of original Colts, Winchesters, a Marlin some replicas.) The only exceptions to this have been a couple of rifles that I HAD to have an action job done to. The first is an Armi San Marco 92 whose action was so rough out of the box that it was unusable. After I had an action job done to it, I came to feel that my Rossi 92, which I had thought was fine, was a little clunky, so I had an action job done to it as well. By Action Job, I mean smoothing it out to run like an original Winchester, not turned into a race gun. Another gun I had work done to was an early Navy Army imported Uberti 66. It had been "over slicked," in my opinion. The lever safety had been removed, and the hammer spring was so lightened that the hammer fell visually slower than any of my other other toggle link guns and I took it to a local smith to ask if he could return it to "more or less factory" specs. (It's still super smooth) And now it runs really fine. The only other work I've had done is some repair work as needed when things have broken, which is not a common thing to have happen. If you have the talent to compete for the belt buckles and intend to make a run at them, you will probably need the maximum of slicking up. But if you have no aspirations on that, then you probably don't need to have the expense.

I would love to shoot a .22 match, just for it to be something different once or twice a year. Got plenty of guns to choose from.

Mine. Near as I can tell, I dropped a double charge. Foolish carelessness on my part. Whenever I hear of people wanting to hot rod things, on purpose, I cringe. If my sharing my own mistakes can prevent others, it's worth it.

Shoot what the gun is made for. When you load your ammo, load to specs for the cartridge, and make darn sure you don't overcharge. Otherwise, this can happen It just ain't worth messing around with.

I tried running 200 grain RNFP in my 1911. It didn't work right. I still use a 200 grain RNFP in my .45 Colts. In a 1911, I use a 230 grain round nose bullet the same shape as a hardball bullet. It works. Sometimes you gotta use different bullets for different calibers. As much as you might like to use the same for everything, it doesn't always work. Especially if one of them is an autoloader.

Shoot the shotgun left handed. It'll take some practice, but shooting from the other shoulder can be learned.

Don't do that...