The Rainmaker, SASS #11631

Happy Birthday Blue Boy! All my best!

And who is perpetuating this with page-long diatribes???

equus mortuus est Let it go already...

I think maybe some just like to type....

Jackson Nemesis. Sold at Fastenal. Not too expensive and work great.

Bang= good No bang= bad BOOM= very bad I have no idea on chronograph numbers; don't care. They fit in the guns, they go bang (not boom) and they make a clang (well, most of the time) What else could ya want? "When you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk" Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

I've spent umpteen seconds digging a hull out of my 97 or a round from my 92, know what ya mean. Not letting it beat me.

Read my next post, you'll get it.

Ummm.... joke And thanks for no middle finger. great

PK, I've noticed you have well over 100 views but I'm only the 2nd reply. Do we have guilt? I do. I joined SASS coming from a practical pistol discipline mostly due to the great attitudes everyone had. My first big match was the Plainfield Raid outside of Sacramento, CA run by Diamond Dick and company. Those guys were AWESOME! Welcomed me in as a new cowboy and one pard even loaned me his 1885 High Wall and 20 45/70s for a long range match. I was hooked! I know you are going to have those that competition gets the best of and they get a little "edgy" in their attitudes, but attacking others on the wire and other places shows anyone watching that we need to get back to better attitudes. I'm guilty and I'm sorry for anyone I've been short with on the wire. I'll try to do better. Thanks PK, many of us can do better.

Have the shooter decide. You can keep your slow (over the max) time or go with the default max time. If I had a trainwreck stage and it went over max, I wouldn't want to be placed behind someone who DQ'd the stage... but if I decided on the time, it's on me.

Take their guns and give em a swift boot in the arse. They obviously don't need to be shooting with us anyway. Amateurs!

I'm sure it's the "trick" guns he uses... NOT! He's good... he's real good. Talented and I'm sure practices a ton. Congratulations young man, well earned!

If this happens, you will definitely shut some clubs down. I can't see clubs spending the $$ on new targets to comply. They will probably either discontinue SASS affiliation and shoot how they want with what they have or shut down altogether.

You're looking at this from a hypothetical point of view, not a practical one. Try it, have more complicated stages with smaller farther targets and see what happens, you may be surprised. And you will hear grumbling. Ask me how I know.

Does that make it any less safe? Or are you agreeing that this was settled long ago?

There's a snake in my boot! We need more cowboy cartoons, jussayin

My SASS Pro Tour card just came in last week. Got a Pro/Am in Boca next week. As for cry babies, I didn't get that this started as cry babies, just observations that things were different with the stages this year over the past few. Lots of opinions and no, you cannot please everyone... with stages, pizza or whatever. But this is where we vent, we complain, we discuss what's happening in our beloved sport and so some take that as crying. As for Phil Mickelson, he usually does pretty well wherever he plays and that quarterback, even though I don't really care for him or his team, he does own more Super Bowl rings than any other quarterback. Did he cheat to get em? Maybe, but that's another whole whinin', cryin' story. BTW, there are MANY cry baby pro athletes.

Jealous

Ahhh, hahahaha... NO! Best PIZZA ever!

Marshal is right, there are more than enough pards to offer up a rifle... or whatever. But sure, you could take misses for what you don't shoot. Yer option.

Oh, there most definitely IS a difference in Pizza! (says the Chicago born pizza snob)

I seldom use a seated starting position (bad knees, ya know), but if I do... ALWAYS put the revolvers on the table!

Top shooters will ALWAYS beat the non-top shooters, no matter what they use. Do tricked guns (no specifically short-stroked) make a difference to top shooters? Absolutely, never inferred that they didn't. But that is no where near why they are top shooters in the first place; they are merely attempting to squeeze those last few milliseconds from their times. And folks are always going to complain about stages... ALWAYS. Most likely because THEY didn't perform well on them. Different people like different things, we've heard that here. Ya can't always (hardly ever) make everyone happy. Yes, the challenge is to make a challenging (not easy and boring) match for competitive shooters while still being entertaining and not too difficult for the rest of the pack. I believe we have the right people in SASS to do this. As far as what's been said (I wasn't there) things were a bit different this year over the past few years. I know those involved in producing the match are listening and will take the feedback to heart and make next year's match better for all. EoT match officials... I salute you.

I don't want to argue or attack, but have you been reading any of the previous three pages of posts? EoT is a large match that happens to be our "World Championship". You don't have to qualify for it and anyone can attend. You haven't had to demonstrate your skill to be allowed in and some of the "best in the world" may not even be attending. Stages "have to be complex" in order to "separate the shooters"? Says who? In any competition at any CAS match, the shooters will be "separated" by their abilities and maybe even some luck or bad breaks thrown in there. You do not writes stages to separate shooters to test their "World Champion" qualities. Is a world champion crowned? Yes. Do the top shooters in the world compete to see who is the best? For the most part. Do you want good, interesting stages for all of the shooters attending? Yes. Do you want to ramp up the challenge of the stages for this event over any other large match? I feel that you do not. And if you think that high-end, tricked out guns are what win championships, you are sorely mistaken. Sure, top shooters use good stuff, but they put in many hours of practice to be where they are, no matter what the stages are. From what I've heard over the past three pages is that shooters, for the most part, want EoT to be a grand match that is NOT overly challenging with complicated stages and small, far targets. Shooters like to do well and even though you can't make EoT a "gimme" match, it can't be so challenging that shooters leave feeling frustrated and not wanting to return. We are at a point where we really need to bring in new shooters to perpetuate our beloved sport and if our Grand Match gets a reputation of being a frustrating, difficult match to shoot, then we may have a harder time doing that. Will the top shooters still attend and win? Of course. Will Joe Middle-of-the-Pack shooter continue to travel to distant NM to attend? I doubt it.