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^ Ditto. Can't beat Waimea for good bullets.

I use Outlaw Bullets. Good prices, great guy to do business with. https://outlawbullets.com/

For those of you interested in taking a closer look at this unique revolvers: Enjoy!!

There are lots of bullet vendors. I choose to buy from those who support the sport by sponsoring matches, taking the time, effort and expense to be a vendor at matches. As an added plus, those folks tend to carry the type of bullets, powder, etc. that works well for our sport. I’ve seen three or so of those vendors named in this thread.

Missouri Bullets has always been good to me.

Chey Cast bullets, love the coated bullets, and free shipping for orders of 2000 bullets! SCJ

I understand we cannot speak ill of vendors or gunsmiths. But, what is reasonable? I sent 3 shotguns to a Top Named 97 Specialist based on previous recommendations on the forum. When I first talked with him, he said as soon as we receive them we will disassembled them send you a detailed breakdown with a cost estimate. Six months later, he said he had been real busy and would get to them very soon. At 13 months I got the quote on the first one. At 14 months I received one back and was told the other two would follow soon and things had been delayed and that this was not normal. At 16 months I asked about the status and received a 1 line response saying “working on it”. At 21 months I sent another email and received no response. Now we are approaching the 2 year mark. I liked the work performed on the first one, but thought it had taken longer than normal. Is this normal? Am I just being impatient? I don’t think so. I think a Man should be as good as his word. I think a vendor should stand behind his reputation. I think that a Man should tell the truth. If it’s going to be 2 years then tell me and let me decide if I want to wait or go somewhere else. I understand gunsmiths are busy. The other 75 or more gunsmiths I’ve dealt with over the years I’ve only had to wait a month or two. Most are honest, hard working and will go out of their way to make sure the customer is satisfied. I do not feel that the way this gunsmith is doing is the Cowboy Way, and I do not think it is the SASS way. I have not mentioned any names and not used any bad language, I have expressed my opinion. I also think like others on the Forum have stated that we need somewhere that we can post vendor feedback and ratings so that others will not be mislead. Thanks for reading BC

You've been waiting for hats since you were 12?

Badlands, you just bought yourself a BIG MANLY HUG with your next purchase!

Just the simple fact of storing customer’s guns that long is no way to run a business and neither is such poor communication. The time that he quoted you, plus a small grace period, is the appropriate length of time for him to take. Anything beyond that should come with good communication to explain why and a clearly revised timeline. In my personal business experience (I’m not a gunsmith) I’ve learned that the best way to deal with bad news is to stay on top of it by being forthcoming about it. Not only is honesty the best policy in general it’s the best policy in business. It all comes back to setting expectations (and occasionally resetting them) and ultimately delivering on them, two actions that the vendor is in complete control of.

And this is why I do all my own work. There's something going on with this guy and he should have stepped up the communication.

For many years Bearcreek were my bullets of choice because a pard up in Norco was a dealer for them. Back in 2008 when the economy took a dive he wanted a walnut gun cart and I wanted some 200 grain .45 bullets so we did the trade. He got a custom built gun cart and I got Bearcreek bullets, lots and lots of them. I sold some and traded some away but it took me about 8 years to use them all so when I had to make a recent bullet purchase I went with CheyCast. My pard in Norco doesn’t sell bullets anymore and the bullets that I got from CheyCast load and shoot nicely.

CheyCast

Chey-cast in Cheyenne WY free shipping on orders over 2000 bullets. Also I shoot 105 gr in rifle and pistol

+10

I really like Badman Bullets. I like 165Gr RNFP bullets in my 45s and 125Gr TC in 38/357. Almost forgot, I use 200Gr RNFP in 45 Schofield cases for Rifle.

Gunner's method in re-establishing proper timing on the Marlin carrier is 1st rate and in my opinion, the best method available. HINT: if you are having the Marlin jam and, if you are shooting short OAL in your ammo caliber, you may want to consider asking Gunner to give you a .005 height increase in his fix. If you are shooting Long OAL ammo for your caliber, resetting factory timing should work fine for you. ..........Widder

I did not ask for pictures. I have given him this much time I will see if he follows through with “almost done and ready to test fire” or if it continues to drag, I will take the other offered advice and follow up with a certified letter. I see from all of the other posts that I am not the only one that has experienced this type of issue. As SASS is our organization I would think they would want this type of information shared to help prevent it from occurring. Thanks BC

OK, but I want my "Manly Hug" on Wednesday. You guys in the tent get pretty gamey by Sunday.

Ruger mags are fine-Glocks hold more. kR

That’s his poker face.

Shudder the thought.

He's very good. I'm trying to figure out if his smile after he wins is natural or if he is intentionally smiling in the most cheesy, fake way possible.

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I've used Summer Enterprises bullets for years now, lowest prices, great bullets and service.

It's hard for me to wait for a quoted timeline when it comes to getting a gun worked on. Having to wait longer with no explanation would aggravate the heck out of me. How long is too long? Longer than quoted by the gunsmith. If they are going to take longer a simple email/phonecall goes a long way. I have a rifle at a gunsmith now, and I am antsy to get it, but I know it will be another 2 months likely. I was told that going in. But one thing I know for sure is when you are quoted a couple of months and it ends up being a couple of weeks, it's like winning the lottery. Totes

I agree 100%, if you tell me two years up front I can decide if I want to wait or find someone else. If you have health or other issues and tell me i’m patient and will wait a realistic amount of time. If you don’t tell me anything or tell me one thing and keep moving it out I do not think that is right. After sending another email and posting this, I received an email stating that he thought he had emailed me and that both of my 97’s are on the bench and one is almost ready to test fire. As I said earlier, he does great work, but needs to communicate and set true expectations. Thanks to all of those have read and contributed BC

Way too long. I try to turn thing around as quick as possible. Usually waiting on or finding parts is what slows thing down, but I communicate that to the customer. I have had one gun in the shop since January because of a back-ordered part.

There was an Asian champion awhile back that did the same thing and hit the double jeopardies every time. This guy plays the same way and has done well. I felt sorry for that young lady last night that was at $0.00 when it was time for final jeopardy.

Rube, Cheycast out of Otto, WY has real quality hard cast, lead coated bullets. I see that Assassin recommended them and he knows the reloading ins-and-outs really well. I got a free box of bullets at one of the Border Vigilantes matches last year and have been using them ever since. (https://bordervigilantes.com) I am currently using .38 Special in their 125 grain coated bullet with 4 grains of Trail Boss and they are as smooth as "Hell on Wheels." Some gunsmiths on the lever-actions tune-up recommend an OAL on the reloads and you need to make sure you can achieve that minimum OAL with the bullets you purchase. Orders of 2,000 bullets are generally shipped at no cost.

Phantom I agree, I Should not have included a state. I have removed it. I know several gunsmiths in that state. I think he is a good gunsmith. I’m not doubting his abilities. Just the timeline and promises. If I crossed the line then the moderator can delete the post. BC

Hi Rube, I like Bullets by Scarlett. Cowboy Action bullets are her thing and she is a shooter. I like her. I hope this helps. All the best, Mo

Your a patient man I would have told him to send me my guns back and took my business elsewhere.

Try K and T. https://www.kandtguns.com/

PM sent, Rube.

His moly coat is all we have ever used in this game. Keeps the bbl and loading dies clean. Best to call, as he's a one man shop. https://www.bearcreeksupplybullets.com/ He ships USPS Flat Rate...... OLG

Shipping costs are a significant part of the cost of cast bullets. Some casters deliver to major matches for free. If you cannot find one, look for one that ships in USPS flat rate boxes. These boxes can weight up to 70-lbs and hold plenty of bullets. I have bought bullets from Bang and Clang, Missouri Bullets, Chey Cast, S&S, Desperado, Colorado Cast and Badman. All their bullets worked fine for CAS main match work. BTW, if buying uncoated, lubed bullets best to order before it gets too warm or the lube can melt off bullets left outside. The new, plastic-coated bullets don't have this problem.

Ask those at your local range. They will know the best prices and the closest for the least shipping cost or know of a seller close enough to avoid shipping cost. CH

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Well-contacting a member here is not as easy as it was. OLG

I messaged him on facebook and let him know you were looking for him.

@Gunner Gatlin, SASS # 10274 I'll send him a message on Facebook in a bit, but he'll probably see that ^ first.