H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

Look on the top of the barrel between the rear sight and the frame. That's where it is on an 1889 gun I have.

Once they switched to made in the USA parts, did they retain that weird safety thing in the hammer? If not, then they are closer to the SAA than the Uberti...

Found this article. https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/this-old-gun-united-states-patent-fire-arms-tombstone-buntline/ It's about a specific model, but has some good information about these early USFA's. Apparently, Uberti parts assembled and finished here. Never thought I'd have a USFA of any kind. And now I sorta do. Fascinating.

I need some help understanding a newly acquired Uberti SAA clone. 4-3/4" barrel, nickel finish. It's got the ubiquitous Uberti style safety in the hammer. When I got it home, I started entering it into my personal records, and of course, once of the things I wondered was who imported it. I started looking for markings, and this what I found... Left side: Back of barrel near frame: 45 COLT On frame below cylinder: Three patent date lines Just behind trigger guard: 45CAL Bottom of barrel, just in front of cylinder pin: A UBERTI - ITALY 45 In front of trigger guard and on bottom of frame: matching serial numbers 124xxx There is also a P above both serial numbers. It's also on the bottom of the grip handle. All pretty straightforward. But here is where it get intriguingly mysterious to me. Top of barrel: U.S. PT F.A. MFG. Co. HARTFORD. CT. U.S.A. That last set of markings confuses the heck out of me. Is this actually a USFA made with Uberti parts? I've read here conflicting assertions as to if they ever did so. Is this proof that they did? What the heck have I found?

I wish the .44 Magnum had conventional sights and stocks. I'd buy one if it did.

Interesting. I guess the Massachusetts License to Carry Firearms does not qualify. I have never had a local FFL not call it in. Maybe I'll ask about it next time I buy a gun.

That's third gen, right?

SAA frame. 1860 grips. Octagon barrel. Where have I seen something like that before? Oh yeah! My custom made Big Iron.

Load one, skip one, load four. Cock and lower on empty chamber. What's so hard?

Wranglers.... Didn't Tex have a low opinion of people who wore them? Or are you talking about a pistol made by Ruger?

Other issues aside, "Mass compliant" means that in order to be sold a handgun must be on the "approved list." To get on the list, it must be able to pass various Massachusetts mandated safety tests. This of course applies to new guns. Used guns on the list are also okay. But, if the gun is not on the list, it can not be sold here. This applies to guns made after 1998. However, for guns made prior to 1998, you still have to be able to prove that it was registered in the state prior to 1998, or it can not be sold here either. If you happen to own guns not on the list, or pre 1998's that were not in the state, you can bring them with you if you move here, but it is somewhat ambiguous as to if you can sell them or not. This is why used guns are more expensive here. But see, every dealer KNOWS what is and is not Mass Compliant. So, I really don't know why they'd bring things to a gunshow they know they can't sell.

Went to a gunshow today. Was surprised to see a USFA SAA clone for a reasonable price. "I'd like to buy that gun." "Sorry, it's not Mass compliant." Went to another booth. Saw an Uberti Buntline. "I'd like to buy that gun." "Sorry, it's not Mass compliant." Why do dealers bring things to a gunshow in Massachusetts that they can't sell?

I guess that makes sense. But I wish it at least had traditional sights and stocks. Got a link for the video?

.44 Magnum? That would be of interest to me. Pedestal... Assuming that is a typo for Pedersoli, I googled .44 Magnum Lighting Shot Show and found this... https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/shot-2025-pedersoli-makes-pump-action-rifles-great-again-44818438 Sadly, it looks like the .44 Magnum is only available in a modernized version of the gun, and not a regular one. Bummer.

I got one of these... https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/1886-tc86-takedown-16-5-45-70-lc1-220100.html It is currently being "customized." It's getting conventional sights, the forestock is being replaced with a standard size one instead of the fat one it does have, the stock is being cut to be just a pistol grip, and the lever loop is being enlarged. In otther words, it'll be what the Mare's Leg should have been. Won't be SASS Legal, but it'll be FUN. I'll also have a non cut shoulderstock to use it as a short rifle if I want to. Not crazy about the muzzle cap, but not much I can do about that.

Y'know, .45 ACP would make more sense than 9mm...

I seem to recall PWB commenting in another thread recently that the threaded barrel is a no no, even with the cap on.

Maybe I'll be able to finagle my way to one of them. At least 3, I don't think I can get enough time off work. Would love to do all seven, but man, that would mean loading up a lot of ammo! Maybe when I am retired...

Looks like a Rossi to me with that bolt top safety. Why do new companies insist on calling themselves the same thing as long defunct ones and then not bother to recreate what their namesake was famous for? Looks like they are not doing a more traditionally designed one either.

Check the barrel length. I have one of their 16.5" 86's with with the threaded barrel. I thought about cutting off the threads, but the are .5" long, and that would take the length of the barrel, theoretically, to exactly 16". I don't wanna risk the wrath of the ATF over the barrel being 1/16th" too short. It would be nice if there was a smooth cap to make it look better, but dang it, the cap is on there so tight that I can't get it off!

Well, when I saw the title of this thread, I had no idea what it was about. When I saw M7, the first thing that popped into my head was the bayonet for the M-16. Then I read the thread and saw it was about certain bit matches down in the heart of Dixie. But I am wondering, how did the seven matches listed come to be referred to as "The Magnificent Seven?"

One thing to consider with .38 Short Colt, and .38 Long Colt, is the bore size. Older guns have a bore diameter of .375" and used a heel based bullet. At some point, they switched to .357" and an inside the case bullet. If you've got an older gun with the bigger bore, and you don't want to mess with heeled bullets, you need to used hollow based ones to get them to expand enough to engage the rifling. I know. I have have guns with both bore sizes, and I use the smaller bullet with a hollow base with no problems. I use a 150 grain hollow base .358" bullet from Buffalo Arms. For years, it was the ONLY bullet I could find that fit the bill There are others on the market now of lesser weight if that is something you prefer. Also, if you've got a big bore pistol, it might be black powder only. And the smaller bore may or may not be safe for smokeless. Do the research on your gun to be sure. For smokeless, I've used 1.2 grains of Trail Boss in the Short Colt, and 2.0 grains in the Long Colt. Good luck.

I've only used the gold one at one match. It's unlikely I'll make it a regular usage one. That gun will just be an occasional plinker. Same for the Patton gun. I'll use it at least once, and then let it be an occasional informal plinker for fun.

That EOT was my first clean match ever. I tell you, on the last stage, I REALLY felt the pressure. I think I shot that stage slower than any one I ever have..

As others have pointed out, one of the best things about a clean match, usually the big ones, is that you get a cool pin for shooting the match clean. The first one I got was the End of the Trail one. That was shot with my AWA Lightning, my father's 3rd Generation SAA with a 4.75" barrel and a 5.5" Armi San Marco clone. All were .45 Colt. The shotgun was a 30" 97. The second one the left hand Hellfire one. While the rifle, first pistol and shotgun were the same, the second pistol was, my gold plated Colt Ft. Desmoine Restoration commemorative. The Mimi Match Hellfire has a story behind it as well. Among other things they do a 3 stage "mini warm match" before the main event. I shot that clean, but there was no recognition for doing so. So, I offered to donate some mini match pins so that anyone who shoots it clean going forward gets a pin. This was with the proviso that anyone who shot it clean the year before (like me) got to claim a pin as well. Irritatingly, THAT year, I had one miss in the mini match. But, that same year, I got my second Hellfire clean match pin. That one was based on "Westerns through the decaded." Each stage was based on a movie from a different wester from a specific decade. So.... I used different guns on every stage, based on guns that appeared in that stage. One stage even had me using my Spencer! Slow as a snail, and I think I came in dead last, but I shot it clean. And I had fun doing so. My goal is always to shoot a clean match, irregardless of any recognition I may or may not get.