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H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

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  1. Curious how the Volcanic pistol makes a cameo in the first video. I notice it has an ugly Marlin style cross bolt safety. Clearly being marketed to hunters and maybe plinkers, but not us. That being said, this is the first tacticool lever gun I've seen that's more Marlin based and in a pistol caliber instead of Winchester 94 based and in .30-30. Maybe S&W figures it'll fill an otherwise empty niche. Still, based on the caliber, the notion of there being a version that would appeal to Cowboy shooters is an obvious one to think about. It would be interesting to see what would happen if they came out with a CAS version and see if it would sell better/worse/about the same as the tacticool one.
  2. In my quest to get factory letters/documentation for as many things as possible in my gun collection, I recently came across this website. http://www.paul-mauser-archive.com/ It's an interesting website, with lotsa info on it. There's also an e-mail address where you can write to get documentation on your Mauser made pistols. So if you've got a Broomhandle, or a Luger, or something else, this may be a way to document it. They don't seem to offer any information on Mauser rifles. They cost 50 Euros each, but they do offer a discount if you get more than one. I know this may be of interest to some of us, so I thought I'd share the info. This winds up being only the second European gun maker I've found that offers anything like a factory letter.
  3. Hmm... Wait... Smith & Wesson Lever Rifle.... Man! For a second there, I thought they were bringing out a modernized Volcanic that shoots something like .32 or .38 S&W!
  4. Looks like a cross between a Marlin and a Henry Big Boy to me. And the price? No thanks! Although, it is is the 1854 "Series." Maybe if there's a variant that has more traditional sights, 10 round capacity, and isn't tricked out with all the "tacticool" stuff it might appeal to SASS shooters if the price was say, $1500 or less.
  5. I am lettering EVERYTHING in my collection. Colt, S&W, Winchester, Marlin, Savage, Parker, Webley, Browning, Ruger, and then digging up what info I can on everything else. It's expensive, and time consuming, but I think it's worth it.
  6. I use it in my derringer. It also works well in cartridge conversion revolvers.
  7. https://swhistoricalfoundation.com/letter-process/ $100 regular price $90 for members of S&WHF or S&WCA $75 for members of both. Worth joining both if you have a lotta letters to get.
  8. Okay, here's my opinion, based on what I have seen similar guns going for within the past year. >2nd Gen Colt SAA 5 1/2" bbl .38 Spcl I doubt you'd see one like this for less than $2000 unless it's really, really beat up. $1700 to $4500, depending on condition. >2nd Gen Colt SAA 5 1/2" bbl .357 - NRA Commemorative Oddly, for some reason, even brand new in box Commemoratives tend to sell for less than an otherwise identical generic Colt. Plus, the NRA Commemoratives had a reputation for having sandpaper actions. I know mine did. I would personally not pay more than $1200 for this, but you might realistically see a price of $1500 to $2500. >S&W New Model #3 was blued...in .44 Rus. Star ejector is inoperable - all matching s/n "Inoperable" really hurts. $500 tops. >S&W New Model #3 was nickeled...in .44 Rus - fully functional, crisp action - all matching s/n Sounds like it's not in the best looking condition even if it works right. $1200 to $2000. That high end is prolly to high, but you never know. Merwin Hulbert SA 44, 3rd Model (with topstrap), in .44 Rus, square butt - needs some action action work - all matching assembly and s/n Normally, I think Merwin's are cool guns that can command a good price, but you say it needs some work. Getting these worked on can be tricky. Depending on how much and what kind, and therefore how expensive, the work needed will be, anywhere from $500 to $3000. These are the kinds of prices I see at local shops, tempered by what I "think" is a legitimate price. (Which is not always what I'd be willing to pay.)
  9. The Henry Big Boy is a well made rifle. I think its similarity to the the Marlin is only superficial and visual, but I could be mistaken. The criticism for the BB comes from two directions, the fact that in spite of being well made, it is not really suited for our game. This is similar to how something like the Winchester 94 in, say, .45 Colt or .44 Magnum, is a nice rifle, but it just ain't right for CAS. The other criticism of the the HENRY Big Boy is how their advertising heavily implies that they are the same company, or at least somehow connected to the same company that made the original Henry back in 1860, which is just not the case. Some folks take issue with this perceived dishonesty. I can understand this criticism. I know for a fact that my brother, who was not a Cowboy shooter, was convinced that Henry Repeating Arms Company, was in fact the same company one run by Tyler Henry. Now, as to the Henry Big Boy itself, a pard once loaned me one at a local shoot after my then new to me 92 had a problem. I found it to be a pleasant enough gun to shoot, if awkward to load. The only "complaint" I had was hot gasses hitting my right wrist as I worked the action. (I shoot left handed) Conversely, I did not experience this problem with a Marlin the one time a pard let me finish the last stage of a shoot with one. This is why I think the visial resemblance is just that, visual only. Take it with a a grain.
  10. For $3000, you can probably get two perfectly usable Colts. Probably used, but they'd be real Colts. Or, four to six clones depending on various factors. I got these for about $2700 combined, not at the same time. Granted, they are Bisley's in .32-20 but they do illustrate how real Colts CAN be found for a reaonable price.
  11. Spoken by the pastor of the church I attend in his sermon... The peace that the Lord gives us, gives us a safety that transcends anything that we may think of that will protect us in this world. You may lay in peace at night, secure in the knowledge that the military might of our nation will keep foreign invaders from violating our land. You may go to bed without fear knowing that criminals are kept at bay by a vigilant local police force. You may rest assured that if all else fails, you can pull a pistol out of your nightstand and defend yourself in a worst case scenario. But all of that is temporary. A surprise invasion may occur. A crime wave may wash over your community. You might be a bad shot. (At this point, the congregation laughed.) But the peace that comes from the Prince of Peace, and the Safety that he provides transcends all of that. Anyway, I was just wondering what some fellow shooting pards think of this. Oh, by the way, the preacher in question is me. I'll be glad to send a link to anyone who wants to hear more of the entire service.
  12. As crazy as it sounds, if I ever come across a dirt cheap Italian clone, I want to have this engraving replicated on a real pistol. Prolly cost a stupid amount to get it done... https://www.ebay.com/itm/116038517681?hash=item1b046f43b1:g:a44AAOSwXLhjVGL0&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwDereMc8N6WSghLFsHUwl1iswFzdYeykSgrejYdEsCRC%2BeCCDHQExOgYDX7K6ff6rvHYeK676wu09XdIGUekXlOX8vU35rWBTYtF4NHs2fxNUQQg5cKY%2FxYnvSKJutSttdQ4m0q7K8ynTxlWMjsy%2BeQ7qOMvT3o2RGfG%2FibmI8ytEW3TGvbLcagD3%2B5MXsmxa0zBRkhA3fXeY4sW%2BnBW4bpaO7KqZf1JH3x3r0i0sFH1p688zJ6bGggqyak27trdlg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9qr35ihYw
  13. I wonder if you can take an unengraved Colt back to the factory and have them engrave it.
  14. I am in the process of documenting as much of my collection as I can. If I can't get a factory letter, I'll e-mail the manufacturer and ask when the gun was made, putting their response where the letter would go if they did them. Failing that, I'll use whatever online tools I can find to get information. It's been a rewarding process. I've got letters from (or for) Colt, S&W, Fox, Parker, Winchester, Marlin, Ruger, Webley and Browning. I've got e-mail from Auto Ordinance and Beretta, and letters of authenticity from the CMP, and Mitchell's Mausers, and even some info from the NRA via Dope Bag for one of my Remingtons. I'd oddly fun doing the research, if expensive when you have a big collection. (My own guns, my Dad's, my brother's, and my nephews' all included!) By far, the most difficult stuff to track down seems to be Remington, but the data is available. Anyway, that's all.
  15. I got several S&W letters in the mail today that I ordered in early December. I am impressed by the quick turn around. I am also impressed how each letter seems to be custom written and not a form letter. Each one goes into general details about the model, and even that is not generic. For example, I got letter for 5 different M&P/Victory/Model 10s, and the "general section," of the letter was unique for each pistol. Then of course, then is the section on the individual gun itself, which goes into a lot more than just the dry stats like you get from other factory letters. For one letter, I got a copy of the original factory invoice, and one even had a copy of an article from American Rifleman about the original owner of one of my pistols! Which is the highlight of this post. Apparently, my New Model 3 Target that was made in 1887 was originally purchased by Arthur Corbin Gould of Boston, who was a champion target shooter back in the day. I never heard of him, but it's nice to know that one of my guns was once owned by someone "important" in the history of the shooting sports, and he was a local boy as well. All of this info, including the "extra details" on my New Model 3, was included in their standard price, with no premium charged for the additional information like some others do. (Hello, Colt?) Anyway, when all is said an done, I feel that S&W provides the best value for their letters. They go into a lot of detail, and are much less expensive than others who charge a lot more for less.
  16. Long story short, a Model 94 can be made to function with pistol cartridges. But it will never work well for our game. What year was your Winchester made made? If it's a post 83 with angle eject and a stupid safety, those are what Winchester made, or more accurately, someone make for them, in the .45 Colt caliber. They are crappy guns to begin with, and coupled with cartridge that the long action is just not designed for, even crappier. To be honest, I will not own a post 83. Now, if you've got a pre-83 Winchester, that was actually made by Winchester. They are decent guns, and I'd not "ruin" it by changing the barrel to a .45 Colt. The could also be issues with the bolt face, and other parts that would make the conversion more than just a barrel swap. Which all adds up to a lot of money. On the other hand, changing it to a .38-55 would be just a barrel swap, and if I couldn't find one already in that caliber, and really wanted one in it, this is one that I'd rebarrell. Curiously, Winchester did make a handful of these guns in .44 Magnum. I've never handled one, but find the concept interesting. It would still have the problem of the action being designed for much longer cartridges, but at least it's a decently made gun to begin with. As it is, you have an excellent hunting rifle, and not a bad one for SASS long range events. Now, if you've got a pre-64 Winchester, you have a gun that is potentially "collectable." Condition is everything, of course, but a pre-64 tends to be be more valuable than a pre-83, and certainly more than a post 83. They were also, in the opinion of most, better made than the things that came later. (Although, I do have a very nice pre-83 model, so it is possible to get one.. I also have a pre-64, and it is clearly better.) I would not change anything about a pre-64. These are great guns. Bottom line, the conversion is probably possible, but not worth the effort, or the money. Hmm.. This long made short story, isn't all that short.
  17. Big loop levers just look so cool!
  18. Obviously, I am gonna agree that you did the right thing. Opinion has always been divided on cutting the barrels on original 97s, (or, I assume, other "original" long barreled shotguns) with neither side having a clear majority. (At least, not here on the Wire.) I have my own ideas on the matter, and other people whom I respect do not share it. But that's okay. I still think you may come to enjoy the long barrel, but if not, it's actually pretty easy to find an existing shorty, or a Chinese replica that's short to begin with. I just wish I could get a 30" full choke barrel for my 93-97! But I am a strange duck.
  19. This might also be a part of the problem. I have found that some guns, especially my Lightnings, must be kept clean to work right. I remember once at a 2 day match, my Rossi acted a little funky on day 2. Ever since then, I clean my guns after every match, and if it's a 2 day, after day one I at least flushit out with gunscrubber and re oil it before day 2.
  20. The only example I could think of would be trying to put a Colt Lighting hammer on a Peacemaker, or vice versa. The Lighting is in many ways, a scaled down, and DA, version of the SAA. But I don't think the hammers for the 2 guns would fit each other.
  21. What is your overcall cartridge length? I had problems like you describe, stove pipes, live round jack out, with mine when running .44 Specials in it. Switched to Magnums, problems went away. You say you've checked, but are you at the max? Wild guess on my part.
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