H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

I actually plan to run some snap caps through it. I have those.

Today, whilst shooting an Iron Man match, I had a very annoying malfunction. Here's what happened... After clearing the shotgun targets, I got 10 hits with my first rifle, a Lightning, and moved to my second rifle, a reproduction Burgess. (Both are .45 Colt.) Anyway, with the Burgess... Lever to chamber 1st round. BANG Lever to eject and chamber second round. BANG Lever to eject and chamber the third round. BANG Lever to eject spent round, but then when attempting to chamber next round JAM Had to declare the rifle dead. Finished the string with 20 hits from 4 pistols. Took rifle away to try to clear it, The best way I can describe it is that the 4th round had reverse stove piped and was stuck pointing straight down into the action with the primer right under the extractor. Was able to clear it, and now the extractor is visibly bent upwards when the action is open. Rounds still cycle from the magazine into the chamber, and the bolt will close all the way, but the extractor does no pull rounds out of the chamber, with it being bent up to far to grab the rim. Obviously, I know what needs to be done to fix it, but I am wondering, what they heck happened! How did next round get into such a weird position? Has anyone with a repro Burgess ever heard of something like this happening? For the life of me, I can't even guess how it happened. A wild guess is that I may have short stroked the lever, but I don't know how doing that could have caused what happened. Any insights?

Which is why I have always believed that a "Hollywierd Henry" should be legal for B Western. Ooo OOO OOOO! Forget a 92 rifle with the forestock removed and the receiver "brassed." How about a brassed Lightning with the wooden pump handle removed? That'd be weird indeed!

Eep... That looks nasty. Question; what is "verdigis?" I've never heard the word before, and it get's a wavy red line under it. As far as cleaning the brass goes, I had some brass with that left in the belt loop gunk on it. Not as bad as some of the stuff in your pic, but it was there. I left it in the tumbler overnight, and that got most of it. But what was left over, a toothbrush and some Dawn scrubbed it away. Some procedure get's rid of green from the brass too, if it's not too deep.

Well, for the most part, I kinda shoot that way now. My guns are stock, for the most part. I have only had action work done on guns that were so bad out of the box that they needed something done to make them usable. Even then, the work has been minimal; I like my guns either stock, or as close as possible to it. I don't do short strokes, drop 2s, or other such stuff. I don't own a single Ruger, and while I do have some clones, I mostly shoot Colts. I do shoot smokeless most of the time. And oddly, .38 Special/.357 Magnum are just about the only common calibers that I don't have any SASS guns chambered for. For some reason, is the CAS context, the calibers don't interest me. But I do shoot various .32 and (other) .38 caliber guns for gun now and again. And, I know I am not the only guy who shoots this way. Yes, we are something of a rarity, but we do exist. And, I don't think there is a need for a special category for us. No, I am not concerned with speed, but I have FUN shooting my old fashioned guns the way they were designed. I know I'll probably never win whatever category I shoot in, but CAS is the most fun types of shooting I've ever done, and that's the important part. I do try for a clean match every time, that's my personal goal. If I wanted to see other "categories" I'd rather see more unofficial stuff like Josey Wales where you shoot in a manner not typical of the normal way. There are lotsa possibilities there; but that's the topic for another thread. As far as Classic Cowboy caliber restrictions go, considering how the category came to be, it makes sense. Among other things, it was thought of as a "big bore" category. Given that context, the .40+ makes sense. So that means .38-40, which is a really a .40 caliber round, or .41 Colt would be the minimums. Works for me.

I don't shoot Frontier Cartridge, but I do have an Uberti Henry in .44-40. When I use the rifle, depending on other factors, I use either black, or smokeless, and it works well with both. A spacer stick as reference above is highly recommended. When all is said and done, other than the way you load it, a Henry is really no different from a 66 or a 73. Mine is out of the box stock, and it works quite well, no complaints about how it works from me. I have not had occasion to compare it to the HRAC gun, but I have seen them in the stores, and they are pretty to look at. But considering how much less expensive the Uberti guns are, and given how they work well "as is," I don't see the point to the HRAC gun. Not that I'd turn my nose up at one, but I personally can't justify the expense.

Hi, everybody. Is anyone here planning to attend the Iron Man shoot in Foster, Rhode Island tomorrow? For those not from around here, (New England) what the call and Iron Man shoot is done with 4 pistols, 2 rifles and (if I recall correctly) 4 to 8 shotgun per stage. It's a lot of fun, and it's been years since I was able to attend, so I am looking forward to doing so. Anyway, questions for anyone who is going that may be "in the know." 1. What time does it start? I believe 10 AM with a 9:30 safety meeting, but I want to confirm. 2. How many stages? I've read 4 and 6. If memory serves, they used to be four, but again, I want to be sure to bring enough ammunition. That's all. Any info would be most appreciated. By the way, I've had enough silliness this season, so I'll be taking this one a bit more seriously. Two NRA Colts, two USFAs, a Lightning, a Burgess, and the Black Diamond 97.

Well, I don't yet load for .32 H&R Magnum, but when I do, I'll wind up using the same 90 grain bullet I use in .32 S&W and .32 S&W Long, with Trailboss.

So your safety fell out and you never bothered to do anything about replacing it/plugging the hole, and it still works okay? That's good to know.

I may just ask my gunsmith the either weld the thing in place in the fire position, or otherwise just plug the holes like people do to their Rossi 92s From what I have read, most articles about the gun are similar to these... https://tinkertalksguns.com/2020/08/29/the-davis-d32-its-not-the-worst-gun-ever-made/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Industries These and other articles all say they same thing, they pistols were very inexpensive, cheap is used in both senses of the word, but not quite junk. But what is most curious is that none of the articles I've read mention a .32 H&R Magnum version, Just .32 ACP. I wonder how rare this one is. Intriguing.

Had an interesting find today, a Davis D32MAG derringer in, surprisingly, .32 H&R Magnum. It's surprisingly, not a bad little gun. I know these don't exactly have a reputation for being "high quality" guns, and it's not, but it's also not piece of junk. I plan to run .32 S&W in it, maybe .32 S&W Long. I doubt I'll ever run the Magnum in it, but it's nice to know that I could if I wanted too. The trigger is actually not so bad for a derringer, and while it is a little awkward to cock compared to my RG38, I think I got a pretty nice deal. The only thing wrong with it is that whatever holds the safety button in the frame is missing, so it can literally fall out of the gun, but with it out, the gun still works. Getting whatever holds the thing in probably won't be all that difficult. Not bad for a hundred bucks.

My Grandmother was born in this country to a German immigrant family. She spoke fluent High German. Her Second husband grew up in Austria and he therefore spoke fluent Low German. Neither had any kind of an accent. Nor could they converse with each other in German. While the written forms are the same, the spoken forms are so different that they are in many cases not mutually understandable. If I recall correctly, he could understand her, but she could not understand him. Supposedly, when they were getting ready to dub his movies into German, Arnold Schwarzenegger called up his agent and asked him to contact the dubbing company to express his interest in dubbing his own parts, since naturally, his first language is German. They asked him send in a recording of some test dialog. They REJECTED him, saying he sounded like the son of an Austrian pig farmer. (Or something like that.) He replied, "I am the son of an Austrian pig farmer!" Then he said to audience, "I guess I'm not understandable in two languages."

Okay, trying to fire .32 ACP ammo in a gun chambered for .32 S&W or .32 S&W Long, even if it will fit, is a fools errand as the ACP is so much higher pressure that it can, and probably will, blow up your gun. But does anyone know if .32 either, or both, of the S&W cartridges will fit in a gun chambered for .32 ACP? I have found a derringer in .32 ACP for short money, and and considering it. As is, I'd be perfectly happy to use ACP ammo in it, but if the S&W round(s) will fit, that would "seal the deal" for me and take me off the fence. I do have one of those conversion cylinders for the Nagant that'll chamber all three rounds, but if I recall correctly, it required some modification to work. But this is part of the reason why I am wondering if it is possible.

You guess correct.

I have a Winchester made in Connecticut. It seems to be superior to ones made in Italy or Japan. *Ducks and hides*

Actually, I suppose I don't, really. I don't like beans, but that's a separate issue. If you must know the truth, I had just seen the episode of The Big Bang Theory where Sheldon, a Texan, explained that chili does not have beans in it, so it was on my mind. I guess it's like how every time I see someone on TV say, "He's got Moxie," which I have oddly heard a lot lately, I find myself thinking "Does that person even know what Moxie IS?" I'm from New England, so I do, by the way. And yes, I actually LIKE the stuff. And just to be pedantic, I really am a "Yankee." What is a Yankee? Well, to people not from the USA, a Yankee is an American. To an American, a Yankee is someone from the North. To a Northerner, a Yankee is someone from New England. To a New Englander, well, from there it get's a little silly. Some would say it's someone from Vermont. Others would say to qualify you have to have at least 2 generations of family in the ground. Others would say you have to be born here. Others would say that you just have to live here, or know that you put cheddar cheese on apple pie, not ice cream, or just like Moxie. I qualify on the last three criteria. Yeah, as much as I "Identify" as a New Englander, I have to admit that I was born in Detroit. But I can prove that as well. I can chug a Vernor's and not dissolve into a coughing fit! And oh yeah, the ACP in .25 ACP .32 ACP, .38 ACP, 380 ACP and .45 ACP stands for Automatic Colt Pistol, and said cartridges are so named because they were first chambered in pistols made by Colt. The .XX Auto designation is a abbreviation. With regard to .45 Colt being colloquially referred to as .45 Long Colt goes, I have decided that it ain't worth worrying about. People know what you mean, irregardless of whatever the official name is.

Ah yes, just like a large frame Lightning. I remember the first time I cycled my large frame and saw the things swing out, I thought it was weird. Other than the swinging part, at least on Colt Originals, I've been told by Lassiter that the only difference between the large and medium frames is size. His exact words were that the large frames were a Lightning "on steroids." The small frames are completely different, having more in common with a Winchester 73 than the medium frame Lightnings. At least, that's what it looked like to me. Lassiter more or less knew why I made the comparison and agreed with me. (If I recall our conversation correctly.) I do know that my AWA .45 Colt Lightning can run .45 Schofields with no problem. I wonder of they will cause problems with trying to run the shorter round in the Pedersoli. (I need to double check something on the large frame...) $2000 is a bit steep, but perhaps worth it. I wonder what other calibers it will be available in. I'd be interested in .44 Magnum. I don't like the config of their "modernized" Lightning in that caliber, but one of these would be something I'd strongly consider acquiring. You can never have too many Lightnings. Adding a .44 Magnum to my collection would be most welcome.

So, what is different about these from a regular Lightning?

For some reason, I want to say... One knife to rule them all One knife to find them One knife to bring them all And in the Darkness bind them In the Land of Mordor where they shadows lie...

Everybody should have at least 1 Frankengun.

I know you know. (Why do I feel like Inspector Clouseau?) I was just having fun.

That's kinda nifty. Here's what goes with the bolt.

Does it have beans in it? Cuz if it has beans in it, it ain't chilli. Then again, "cuz" and "ain't" aren't words, to be pedantic about it.

It's not turd uck in. It's tur duck in.

I always wondered if people who posted on Twitter were called "Twits."