Widder, SASS #59054

What Lumpy posted above ^^^^^. ALSO, you can contact Gunner Gatlin about his fix..... AND, on this Wire, we have a good Wire Pard name Jackrabbit Joe who can weld and reshape those carrier ramps. I would trust either person using their particular methods. ..........Widder

DD: from your description, your jam is often referred to as the "Marlin Jam"..... or the 'feed 2 jam'. It is caused by the rising time of the carrier in relationship to the OAL (Over All Length) of your ammo during the downward stroke of the lever. Basically, you have slow timing. CURE: The carrier ramp need to be heightened about .003 to .005. This can be done by a good TIG welder, or adding something hard like a jigsaw blade to the ramp, etc........... CAUTION: when welding on the carrier, don't allow the area of that little plunger to get too hot because it can ruin (destroy) the spring strength on that plunger piece. And with no spring strength to that plunger stud, the carrier won't rise during the upward stroke of the lever. Depending upon the severity of your timing, sometimes the cure is to shoot ammo that has a longer OAL than the ammo that is jamming. Example: if your rifle is a .38/.357 and your ammo is 1.450, it might help to use ammo that is 1.500 in OAL. NOTE: don't add too much height to the ramp because when the timing becomes too fast, the carrier will pinch the bullet as it exits the portal area and create a jam before the bullet can clear the portal to sit on the carrier correctly. Adding .003 to .005 is usually sufficient to correct your timing issues. ..........Widder

Blackwater, The Moderators found out you're kin to TN Williams and have hacked into your SASS Wire connections. Sorri Cuz. But if you'd like, I can put in a good word for you and get you back on in good standing. ..........Widder

This ^ is a good question. As for that 'wear', more than likely its from 'fitting' the carrier in the rifle in order for it to pivot up and down. Someone has grinned (or sanded) that 'saddle' area and didn't reblue it. A conscientious gunsmith would normally give a slight polishing to that area but my guess is that a factory worker under time restraints did it. And as Lumpy inquired................ what type of jam is it? Is the round jamming coming onto the carrier or does it jam going into the chamber. Does it jam on the 1st round or the last round, etc......... And as Lumpy's #1 excellent advice..... 'are all your screws tight'? EDIT: can you give us a picture of the other side and the bottom of the carrier. We would like to see the ramp condition. ..........Widder

Actually, I was gonna say......... 'shoot the elephant in the knee' ..........Widder

Or those who kiss a cobra. ..........Widder

ALWAYS liked her...."First Time, Ever I Saw Your Face". EDIT: wasn't she in Clint Eastwoods movie....'Play Misty for Me"? ..........Widder

I just wish somebody would tell us where he gets all that blue ink. ..........Widder

Rumor has it that PWB has TN Williams and Capt BB blocked on his phone..... ..........Widder

Any and All gratuities can be sent to ME and I will see that he receives his proper payment.......... added into his exuberant salary..... Indeed, he is a big help to all of us. ..........Widder

Gosh, weren't any of you happy with Bill Clintons AG (Janet Reno) or the cone head under Barack (Eric Holder) who supplied guns to criminals so that he could track their usage. ..........Widder

sweet memories. ..........Widder

And don't forget....... the 5' and 10' RULE is still the same for hip shooters. ..........Widder

But..... she was never one of Andy's girlfriends on Mayberry. ..........Widder

I'm watching Fox News right now and they are interviewing Pam Bondi (new AG) She said she 'fired' a group of ATF agents yesterday because they had been targeting 'gun owners'. She said this administration supports the 2A and she was not gonna stand for ATF agents targeting gun owners. YEEHAW! ..........Widder

Your 'OUTLAW' shooters all shoot the SG from the hip. Some use the 87, some use the 97 and some use the SxS. But, they shoot from the hip. I have no helpful tips as for accuracy because I still miss from the shoulder. BUT maybe TN Tombstone will chime in and give some valuable info. He's considered a good OUTLAW shooter and basically authored the rules/guidelines for OUTLAWs. Best regards ..........Widder

For those interested, there are a couple lengthy videos on YouTube about .22 ammo testing. I would normally add the link but they are lengthy. Part 1 is 26 minutes, and part 2 is 19 minutes. And I didn't want to take up that much time/space on this thread topic. Here are their titles of exact wording: CZ 457 MTR ammo test part 1 CZ MTR ammo test part 2 Hope this helps with some variety of information. P.S. - I have nothing to do with this video nor do I know the producer. ..........Widder

Thats a 'Roll Butt'........... the kind we all need. ..........Widder

Indeed I have. Two S&W model 617's, one with 4" and one with 6" barrel. BOTH were 10 shot models. With those 2 revolvers, there were 4 chambers that gave REAL GOOD accuracy with CCI standard vel, and 36 and 38 grain Federal 'Black Box' ammo. Those same 4 chambers didn't do so well with about 15 other types of .22 ammo, including Eley. The accuracy was about the same as the other 6 chambers. And the 6" was noticeable better than the 4", both using a sandbag rest. I actually numbered each chamber and fired EACH chamber for accuracy with over 20 different types of .22 ammo with 5 shot groups. I also have two Ruger MK4 'Volquartsen' Scorpions....... barrel, trigger, hammer, etc..... one is 4+" and the other is 6+". There accuracy is braggable with a couple types of ammo, but just like the revolver, they have their preference. NOW, here is one interesting thing with my S&W model 41, which is now owned by TN Williams. It loves CCI Stingers. great accuracy. But it wasn't fond of some Federal stuff or ELEY. My present Model 41 really likes a couple favorites like CCI Standard Velocity and some bulk Federal stuff. Basically, with any .22 pistol or revolver, your gonna have to grab a couple boxes of CCI, Federal, etc..... off the shelf and go test YOUR pistol. Here is a partial list of .22 ammo I have tested for accuracy in Browning Buck Mark pistols, S&W model 41's (2 different pistols, both with the 5" and 7" barrels), Volquartsen Ruger's MK4's, S&W model 617 (4 and 6") and a few non-target type pistols. Federal White Box (bulk) Federal Blue Box (bulk) Federal Hunter Match Aguila Subsonic Eley Subsonic HP (Green label) CCI Standard Vel CCI Suppressor CCI Velocitor CCI Mini Mag HP Federal Black Box (36 and 38 grain bulk). Ironically, these work darn good in my KIDD 10/22's. Federal HV Match Aguila Sniper Subsonic CCI Blazer CCI Pistol Match CCI Stinger CCI Mini mag Lapua Center-X. (High Dollar match ammo). Taking a quick look at my targets from all that testing, 2 of the better targets were with the 6" Volquartsen Ruger using Federal Hunter Match and the S&W Model 41 using CCI Stingers. ..........Widder

This my limited understanding on ELON and our tax money. Our tax money goes to NASA. NASA uses ELON/Space X to help build their rockets and other stuff. NASA pays ELON out of their budget. It ain't much different than most things we benefit from. Think about it..... even some of our local shooting ranges are owned by our local government (or the land is leased) and shooters membership fees pay for its usage. But in reality, we own the government and its existance is relied on our tax money. Its just a 'round robin' situation........ they get our money, we get what they use the money for, etc....... Works the same with hospitals, etc.............. ..........Widder

He probably already has one or two stashed away just waiting to save the world..... if the majority are Republicans. If the majority is Demo's, he'll probably launch hisowndangself and a few friends to Mars, where he has already made plans to live, and let the asteroid take revenge on his frustrations. ..........Widder

Hey Flipper, I wouldn't mind being a shark or whale or whatever..... because I like seafood a lot. I know some girls that would make a good Grouper. and of course, some are good Cougars. ..........Widder

Transslender..... that's funny. If you were poor and started working for a bank, you would be a Trans Lender. If I change my name to Richard, will that automatically make me Rich? $$$$$$$$$ ..........Widder

Some local clubs don't require SASS membership just to shoot their local matches. Ya might want to talk with your local club about that issue. I understand your thoughts about a reduced SASS membership fee based on age and participation. There may be something the home office can work our for your situation. Best regards ..........Widder

I'd have gas money if 'Tight Wad' Williams paid me my $$$. He opened up his billfold the other day and ole George and Thomas 'Squinced' their eyeballs cause it had been forever since they've seen the light of day. He's so tight that Winchester once considered naming their 'Turkey' choke the 'Williams' choke. ..........Widder