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I heard it's the State gun down there in Florida. They seem to take pretty seriously down there. 😆 Totes

This is a good example to illustrate the misses vs. P rule being discussed. But, I think it's even better as an example for MD's to not put TO/Spotters in the position for bad calls that could impact the results of a match. One posse may have a shooter that ends up with 10 secs in penalty and another posse with a shooter with 40 secs that shot the stage exactly the same. Match directing if a lot more than just matching sweeps to the number of targets on the stage. Thinking through these types potential issues makes for a better match and prevents a 10 minute discussion to figure out the right call or a 4 page WTC thread here on the wire. Totes

Gun engraving may be one of those things that laser machines will never equal a master hand engraver. Totes

This is similar to a shooter having a go-round in a revolver, thumbs it a few more times, declares it broke and grounds it. I've never seen a TO ask the shooter to 'show' the gun is broke by returning to the pistol and continue working the action to verify. You just send it to the ULT and call the miss. What if the hull was truly stuck and the act of grounding it jarred it loose? Or if the gun wasn't opening far enough to fully eject the hulls, but the act of grounding it freed it up to fully open? Point being, there are all sorts of examples where one shooter could declare a broke gun that another shooter could easily work through to resolve. Double feed in a 73 and shooter has no idea how to clear Split case needing extra force to open the lever in a rifle Cap jam in a C&B needing extra force to rotate the cylinder All these can be declared broke guns without questioning from the TO after the fact or without thought to the effort put in by the shooter to work through the problem. Heck, there have been cases where I've seen shooters struggle with an issue and just shrug their shoulder and lay the gun down and I (as the TO) declared the gun broken for the shooter vs coaching the on how to resolve the issue. This saved them time and avoided a penalty. Did I just impact the overall standings for the match? Should I ask the shooter to continue working through the issue since I don't believe the gun is 'broken'? I think the broke gun rule, as it's currently written, would technically make this a no-call after thinking about it. But, I also think in the heat of the moment if I was the TO, I likely would have called it an MSV. - Malfunctioning firearms still containing rounds will not warrant penalties (except misses for unfired rounds) so long as the malfunction is declared and the firearm is made safe. Totes

Except for my home club, I have to drive 2+ hours each way to shoot a monthly match. I'll choose a club that shoots 6 stages over a club that shoots 5 to make the trip worth it for me. Just because a club writes 6 stages, doesn't mean you have to shoot all 6 if you get tired or hot. But it allows those of us who want to shoot 6 to do so. Our club is a 6 stage club for monthly's. Totes

I wrote a New Years match once with a 2021 sweep on 4 targets then repeat where you had to skip the 2nd target. Got mixed reviews. I guess you could do a 2026 sweep this year. 😁 Totes

That's great to hear that he's still doing them. He does fantastic work! Totes

Snake Oil did mine, but I heard he's not doing it any longer.

I once put a bottle of Pyrodex in a shopping cart and the cart rusted before I could get to the check out to pay. 😁 Totes

Silly question, but did you pull the extractor out and clean under it to make sure that wasn't why it was 'riding high'? Totes

I was able to register Ginger and I. Totes

I only shot grooveless bullets for years. After my favorite (Precision Bullets) went out of business, I've been getting them from Slippery Bullets. Great bullets and even better prices!

I've got the Long Range Buffalo MVA on my Browning BPCR 45-70. Works fantastic! Totes

Thank you, Flat Top! I appreciate the clubs efforts taking another look and soliciting feedback. I look forward to the WB match next year! Totes

Glad to see the club reaching out to everyone on this with a survey. Looking forward to seeing the results. Totes

@Flat Top Okie Is this decision to move WB days "set in stone" for Land Run 2026? I can only shoot one out of state annual a year, this might push us to Bordertown for 2026 if there is no chance the dates for WB will be rolled back to previous years. Totes

It's going to have the opposite effect on me. It will keep me from shooting WB as I would need to take 2 additional days off work. Monday for 2nd day of WB and Tuesday for a travel day. I can't help but think others will be in the same boat. It was easier to fit everything in with only take 5 days off work including travel days. Totes

Wish we could make the 2026 match. The 2025 annual was great! The Cabs have really spent a lot of time and money on range and match improvements! Totes

It's always cold up there in the North at those higher elevations! 🤠 Totes

+1 on looking for a Browning! One of my favorite rifles in my collection is the '86 High Grade Browning in 45-70. I also have a Chiappa '86 in 45-70 with MVA Soule sights. It's is very accurate. I don't want an '86 with a tang safety and that was a huge factor in deciding which model to get. Totes

IMHO, a short barreled, auto cocking Browning/Miroku low/high wall in traditional category is probably the fastest. A good throw of the lever will kick out the spent brass and cock the hammer. I also hear Lee Shaver makes an auto cock mod for the Italian rifles as well, but have never seen one. Choose a caliber that would match other side matches/rifles you might want to shoot (Long Range, Cody Dixon, Teddy Roosevelt, etc). Makes reloading simpler. Totes

I like the same stock my rifle has. Pistol grip for me. I have a short thumbed friend that likes the straight stock shotgun. #BIP. 🤠

I like the Tripp Research Cobra magazines with the hybrid followers. They have been great for me in both production and custom 1911's. They also support our club's annual match with donations. Totes

~$1K? A Colt series 70 and 300-500 rounds of ball ammo to run through it. Then a YouTube video on adjusting the sear spring. You'll be all set for WB after that. Totes

We use the Competition Electronics ProTimer BT with Practiscore and Kindle Fire tablets. Works great! Totes