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Howdy, welcome to the fire! You'll be getting lots of advice here, and the answers may go on for a couple of pages. I'm just going to stick to your questions. First, between the '92 and the Thunderbolt... hands down the '92 will give you a better outcome. I've HAD a Thunderbolt, don't have it anymore. Was never able to get it to run reliably, and the customer service was awful. I started with a '92, sold it some years later. Finally tracked one down just like it again. It's a strong rifle, can be used for other purposes than CAS. You can fire heavy loads in it and it is a very accurate rifle. You should have it worked over by a Cowboy Gunsmith, or if you're reasonably handy, order the CD and parts from Steve's Gunz and do the action job yourself. Since you are going for price point, this might be the best option in a rifle that can be found in that price range. You might want to rethink shooting .45 unless you reload. Without reloading, boxes of .45colt are going to be fairly expensive, at more than two boxes per match, plus practice .38's would be less expensive to buy. I'd recommend getting into reloading fairly soon. For the pistols, you might want to look at the Taylor's Cattleman, in either regular or Gunfighter grips. You really need to handle some guns and see if the regular "plow handle" is for you or if you want the longer "Army" grip. The Cimarron Firearms MP400 and MP411 4-3/4 and 5-1/2" are the same guns. All are at a similar price point to the Traditions pieces, but with better fit and finish. Surprisingly I bought some Cimarron Pre-War type revolvers at EoT back in 2003, and they did not need an action job or lighter springs. Yep, I was surprised, because just about every CAS firearm I own has had action work done on it. No promises, you may not get the same results from ones you buy. You'll get a lot of advice here... I tried to stay with your posted questions. Welcome, and get out to a match and handle some guns. Merry Christmas! ~Duc~

Howdy, continuing to clear out my Cowboy Closet of stuff I don't use or doesn't fit anymore. SOLD: This is a pair of Frontier Classics Old West Style pants. 100% Heavy Cotton Suspender Buttons, Button Fly, High Waisted 48 x 28 with a 15" Rise They are in very good used, cleaned condition. 30.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48, other locations slightly higher SOLD: a Larger set. Wah Maker Trousers, Dark Brown Old West Styled. Suspender Buttons and Button Fly 50 X 29 High Waisted with an 18" Rise. Means you can wear these pants longer if you need to. 100% Heavy Cotton Construction, Made in the USA. In Very Good used, cleaned, condition. 25.00 includes Priority Mail Shipping anywhere in the US pictures will come shortly. Thanks ~Duc~

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Still cleaning out items that I haven't used in quite awhile or don't fit anymore. This is a continuation of my other thread because there's a limit of how many pictures I can put up per Post. SOLD 11.) Black and Silver Leather Hat Band, Adjustable Size, B-Western or just to Fancify your hat. 20.00 includes shipping 12.) Black Leather Holster. Lined. Heavy Construction, fits a 5-1/2" "Old Model" Vaquero and a 3" Belt. Lip flared for easier reholstering. I don't remember who made it, but it's a Heavy-made piece that won't collapse. Supple Leather, Solid Stitching with No Fraying. 55.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 SOLD 14.) Black Leather Plaited Stampede String with decorative metal end pieces (aglets), secured with an ornamental slide. 15.00 includes shipping to the CONUS 48 Thanks, ~Duc~

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I've got several rifles, '66 and '73s, but I'm holding on to my pre-safety half-round, half octagon Rossi '92 in .45colt, and a Winchester '92 in 38WCF. They are good shooters and as accurate as you could want. I shoot them with heavier loads and at longer distances than CAS, but they still make for a decent match gun. Have fun with that '92!

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Dr. O.R. Vet, I'll be posting so some more leather items here tonight, I believe I have some more Cartridge Slides. Shorty, sent you an e-mail. Cobra, sent you a PM Dantankerous, sent you a PM Sgt. Quincannon, sending you a PM shortly. Thanks! Doc McC

Yep, but caliber plays very little role in how well you do. I've seen a shooter with a .45colt best all comers. .38's win over .32's and .people shooting .44-40 and .38-40 beat out folks shooting .38s. It's all about the craftsman, not the tool.

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Still cleaning out my Cowboy Closet of items I don't use or don't fit anymore... FS: Leather Items 1. SOLD) Black Shotgun Belt. 52" long overall, 48" to middle hole. 2" Wide. 8 Double Loops holds 16 Shells. Brass Clipped Buckle Contoured design. Made by Mernickle Holsters. Suede Lined so it will stay in place. Solid and Supple, no Fraying. Very nice used condition. 75.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 anywhere else, slightly higher. 2) Black Spur Straps. Good basic pair. Nothing fancy, still gets the job done. 13.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 3. SOLD ) Heavy Duty, Small, US Military Belt Pouch, Black. Vietnam era. Fits a 2" Belt. I used it for a Cap Pouch while shooting Frontiersman. Back is stamped US TB&SCO 1966 Solid, Supple, no Fraying. 15.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 4. SOLD) Russet Cartridge Slide, for .44/45 fits a 3" Belt. Border Tooled and Star Pattern Snaps. Made by Jackson, Asheville NC (great guys!) 15.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 5. SOLD) Black Cartridge Slide, for .44/45 fits a 2-1/4" Belt. Made by Mernickle Holsters. 13.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 SOLD 6) Fancy Black Gun Belt with Spots and Conchos, 48" overall. 44" to Middle Hole. 2-1/2" Wide. Unlined. Made by Cobra Kid. Bought it here off the Wire a few years back. 62.00 includes Priority Mail Shipping anywhere in the US. SOLD 7.) Russet Cartridge Slide, for .44/45 fits a 3" Belt. Heavy Leather, Border Tooled and Star Concho. 15.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 SOLD 8.) Russet Cartridge Slide, for .38 fits a 3" Belt. Heavy Leather, Border Tooled, 13.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 9.) Brown Cartridge Slide, for ..44/.45 fits a 2-1/4" Belt. I used it to carry .45-70s when shooting Plainsman, 13.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48 SOLD 10.) Black and Silver Leather Hat Band, Adjustable Size, B-Western, Steam Punk, or just to Fancify your hat. 15.00 includes shipping Thanks ~Duc~

There's a pard in South Carolina that shoots in B-Western, does the whole Lone Ranger outfit, mask and all. He has a ball doing it!

Chinese imports, not bad for what they are. Inspect yours before you buy it. I've seen one where the barrels were misaligned and one pointed lower than the other. Barrels are two sections with the barrel welded to the breach. Breach face has a protruding block instead of a flat face, makes smooth loading more difficult. Fit and Finish are spotty, with sharp edges at the muzzle crown and trigger guard on the one I looked at. Wood was nice, styling like a brick... but at 275.00 I wouldn't expect a lot of niceties. The specimen I handled was so stiff, I had to use my knee to open it. Personally I wouldn't recommend it as a starter gun. There are many better doubles that come up for sale on the Classified Wire for just a bit more, that already have work done on them, so they are competition ready. I'd start there. For price point, you'd do better with a Stoeger or Baikal.

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If they're going for price point, go with a '92 instead. Faster resale within CAS shooters, can be smoothed and heck, look at it run! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfN6KOK4N0

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I tried different ways and loop configurations. Finally settled on what gives me a lesser case of the fumble-fingers and I practice that.

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Howdy, continuing to clear out my Cowboy Closet of stuff I don't use or doesn't fit anymore since I shrunk. SOLD: This is a pair of Frontier Classics pants. 48x28 with a 15" Rise 100% Heavy Cotton They are in very good, almost new, cleaned condition. Suspender Buttons and Button Fly Old West Trousers 30.00 includes shipping to CONUS 48, other locations slightly higher Thanks ~Duc~

Still cleaning out the Cowboy Closet, parting out items I don't use anymore, or don't fit since I shrunk.... SOLD: An older Holster Set with Belt, Cartridge Slides and a Belt Pouch for carrying your empties from the unloading table. Had this made for me back in 2002, the dye has sun-faded over the years. I have several rigs and I don't use this one anymore. Leather is Heavy Weight, and all in solid, supple condition. All stitching it solid, no fraying. Holsters are Double Strong Side with a Muzzle Forward Cant, fits 4-1/2 and 5-1/2" "Old Model" Vaqueros Heavy Lined Holsters keep their shape and the lip is flared for easier re-holstering Belt is Suede-Lined so it stays in place, 3" Wide and 55" Long, 52" to Middle Hole Comes with 2 Cartridge Slides that hold 5 .38's each. Also comes with a Belt Pouch to hold your empties. Flap of Belt Pouch has a Badge Holder. Holsters were held stationary on the belt by 2 Chicago Screws, (included) You can use the same spot or move them where you like. I don't remember the maker's name, he had a leather business out of Ohio, but it escapes me at the moment. 99.00 plus 16.00 shipping (Large Flat Rate Box Priority Mail) anywhere in the U.S. Thanks, ~Duc~

I shoot a double. I've used single loops that hold two and I've used single loops (that hold one each) spaced closely together. I've found the latter to space the shells better for loading into the gun. Less fumble.

I saw a few more of these stages. Lots of "stuff" being done on the clock, runnin' and gunnin'... using what guns they have available. Not SASS rules but they sure are having a lot of fun! Reminds me of what I've read and heard about the very early days of CAS.

Howdy Widder Here's his CMOH citation, including Unit, Rank, Organization, Dates, Place, and Citation Details http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detail/2717/doss-desmond-t.php

Still cleaning out the Cowboy Closet of stuff I don't wear or use anymore... SOLD: A pair of Mernickle "Evil Roy Series" Holsters. Black with Spots and Conchos Leather lined Holsters with metal between the leather layers. Will never collapse on you. Flared lip makes holstering easier Model BW1 Ref1 http://www.mernickleholsters.com/b_western/bw1r1.html Can be attached to a Mernickle Buscadero Belt or on a Traditional 2-1/2" Belt (belts are NOT included) Made to fit 4-1/2 and 5-1/2" Barreled Colt Revolvers (and Uberti or Pietta Reproductions). New Model Vaqueros will fit (see pictures), but are a little snug. Very Nice used Condition. From their website: Our B-Western holsters have been developed using the same metal technology found in our popular Fast Draw Series. This includes stabilizing the gun when running with a calculated retention factor yet allowing the gun to come out with ease when being drawn. Each holster has an outward lip curl to help with a faster re-entry of the gun. The tie down has a small piece of leather attached with a slot in it to go over the hammer. When slipped off the hammer, the weight of it keeps it low and out of the way when drawing the gun. 165.00 includes Priority Mail Shipping anywhere in the US, anywhere else, slightly higher. Thanks, ~Duc~