Boomstick Bruce Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 So as some of you know, I shoot a pair of stainless Uberti 1858 Remingtons with 5.5" barrels and gated kirst conversions with richard mason ejectors. They are 5 shot only but have a "safety chamber" which is basically a 6th chamber that isn't bored through to rest the hammer in. Well Walt Kirst redesigned the cylinders to be true 5 shot cylinders and with "firing pin retainers" between the 5 chambers for the firing pin to rest in as a safety. So in other words, it would be fully loaded with 5 and have the hammer down between chambers instead on in a 6th "safety chamber". I know the old design was SASS approved but is the new design? I want to buy cylinders for 45acp (to save powder) but don't want to find out my guns are now not SASS approved... here's a link: https://www.kirstkonverter.com/1858-remington.html thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 YES, they would be LEGAL under current rules. Quote Five-shot revolvers may load five rounds, but the hammer must rest on a dummy chamber or safety slot/pin in the cylinder to avoid the hammer resting on a live round/cap. SHB p.13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, PaleWolf Brunelle, #2495L said: YES, they would be LEGAL under current rules. SHB p.13 Awesome! Thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Gulch, SASS #53035 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Did I miss something here? If the goal is to save powder (shoot more) the difference between 45ACP and 45 Colt using "cowboy" loads is negligible using smokeless. If using BP then the difference is much bigger. If the goal is useing less BP why not use Cowboy 45 SPL. cases? The expen se would be far less to set up for 45CB SPL than the purchase of 2 new cylinders. I am sure Mr. Kirst would appreciate the patronage but it ain't my money to spend .......now is it? Long Gulch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASS, Singing Hills Ranch Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 And still in stock https://www.starlinebrass.com/45-cowboy-special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Bruce Posted January 29, 2022 Author Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 11:35 AM, Long Gulch, SASS #53035 said: Did I miss something here? If the goal is to save powder (shoot more) the difference between 45ACP and 45 Colt using "cowboy" loads is negligible using smokeless. If using BP then the difference is much bigger. If the goal is useing less BP why not use Cowboy 45 SPL. cases? The expen se would be far less to set up for 45CB SPL than the purchase of 2 new cylinders. I am sure Mr. Kirst would appreciate the patronage but it ain't my money to spend .......now is it? Long Gulch I have thousands of pieces of 45acp brass. I go to a local outdoor range and grab all I want for $5, sometimes they don't even charge me... Plus it comes in both large and small primer so I can load with whatever primers I can get my hands on... I load 45acp with 5gn of trail boss and 45 Colt with 6gn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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