H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

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Oh, I do that with my .44s already

It is weird to want a Sheriff's model and Buntline Special in .32-20? A couple of months ago, I actually saw a Sheriff's in this caliber on Gunbroker, but I passed on it because Colt Sheriff's are C&R only in .44 or .45 caliber. As such, this one was not, and therefore, it is not legal to import into Massachusetts. I think the only way I could get a .32-20 Sheriff's model would be to obtain an existing one in .44 or .45 that's kinda beat up, and take it to Colt and have it rebarreled and recylindered. Probably more trouble than it's worth, but it's the only way I could get one. By the same token, I've never even seen a Buntline in .32-20 nor heard of one. Other than doing the rebarrel thing, I'd have to order a custom one with factory engraving, and that's just too expensive and takes to long. So, why do I bring this up? Well, it's looking more like I'm gonna be shooting .32-20 more often instead of .45 Colt/.44-40/.44 Special to make my powder last longer. (Yeah, yeah... I'm a miser.) But while I do have 5 rifles in the caliber, I only have 2 pairs of pistols. Two SAA's and two Bisley SAA's. I know that my only option in this chambering is a Colt (or clone) but I do like to have some variation from time to time. The Buntline and Sheriff's were the only things I could think of. But getting them... Not easy!

I did get hit square on my glasses once. No damage, but it was disconcerting!

Generically, I get the "walking the purchaser out," thing, but only to an extent. At Cabela's, especially in a case like yours where you are open carrying, it does seem kinda silly. But what does Walmart do? I've never actually bought a gun there. I know when I worked at K-Mart in the 80s (I miss that place!) that when I sold someone a gun, I did walk them to the exit and hand them the box on their way out, so that's why I "get" it, but beyond that, I am curious as to what Walmart does.

Well, yeah, it winds up being an all day affair. But if you can't buy anything... Oh well.

To all my fellow New England Pards... If you didn't know, and I did not, Maine has instituted a 3 day waiting period on gun purchases. I went up the Kittery Trading Post today for Septemberfest, and found a great rifle, an Uberti 66 in .32-20, something I thought I'd never see, and would have bought it. It would have been free thanks to some gift cards I have. But, before we started the paperwork, the clerk asked me if I knew about the waiting period. Apparently Maine recently enacted a 3 day one recently. I had no clue. To be honest, it take me about an hour and a half to get up to Kittery, which is why I don't go all that often. I guess I'll be going even less now.

Thanks. This is kinda what I was hoping people would do, share info about other gun companies. Oh, I recently learned the HK does not do letters, but they will tell you date of manufacture if you ask. Contact info is on their website.

Well, I got the info from the FOIA request for my M1D. (That was fast!) The "bad" news is that the information is limited. The good news is that it is somewhat interesting, and there was NO CHARGE, so it is worth doing. Here's a pic of what they sent me. There was also a generic explanation of the data samples page. The interesting thing about the sample page is that it listed info for a 1911. Take it with a grain of salt, but for the low cost of Zero, I think it's worth getting the data.

Here is another update on the FOIA request. I got an e-mail this morning from the people who actually process the FOIA requests for firearms. In the e-mail, there was this notation... Although we will research all weapons, it is unlikely we will find any records on the following weapons: Rifles Model 1903s/03-A3, 1917s, M1898, Pistol Models M9, Shotguns, and any Models in the Army inventory prior to 1975. So that tells us what's worth looking for. I have sent in a request for one of M1s that I purchased in the last few years. Once I get it back, I'll send in requests for anything else I've purchased from the CMP in the last few years, but probably won't bother with older surplus guns as they are either on the list for not having records, and/or they were clearly sold as surplus long before 1975. They also sent this form to use for future requests, which I share with you all now. Small Arms_Light Weapons FOIA Request.pdf

I've used a Spencer. Genuine GI. I like to take it out once a year or so and shoot a match with it. Most recently, I used it for one stage at the MA/CT/RI Tristate for one stage. Shot a clean match!

Oh, right! They would be in the same category. 73, 92, Marlin, 66, Henry, Lightning, even the Spencer, are all "Main Match" rifles and would be in the same category. Love to see someone try a speed match with a Spencer! That would be... Weird!

They destroyed a beautiful car and a Malibu. Shame on them. And I don't think either car had an engine in it. Very fake news. From the very clean pics, that Bel Aire was worth 2x the Malibu. At least.

I guess it all comes down to this... Is the Lightning a good speed rifle side match gun? Depends on the shooter. Is it in general, a good main match rifle? There are those who will say yes, there are those who will say no. All a matter of preference.

I would disagree, irregarless of your assertion. Why, because everyone knows exactly what I just meant. What is a "word?" (SIX SPACES shout all writers.) Ahem... A "word" is a collection of spoken sounds with an agreed upon (accents and dialects non withstanding) pronunciation and meaning. In written form, it has an agreed upon spelling. "Irregardless" meets all those criteria. Its derivation is non standard, but so are hundreds of other words in our language. English is a fluid, living, changing language. If "irreigardless" is not a word then we shouldst reeturneth to ye olde verb tenses, is it wouldst maketh more sense to thee.

Well, you hit the nail on the head earlier in your post. When I "say" what some people incorrectly hear as "should of" I am actually saying "should've." Got into an argument with my first grade teacher over this very point. She didn't like me.

Ah, that would make a modicum logical sense.

Yeah, the guy who invented them, called them silencers. The patent calls them silencers. The LAW that regulates them, calls them silencers. Suppressor is a word made up after the fact that has no "legal" meaning with regards to the devices. " 120-130dBA at 1 meter isn't quite." Isn't quite what? I assume you mean a VU meter? These are used to measure volume, as in sound, but I are confuzzled.

I have seen some Lighting shooters handle the rifle very fast. Some on video, some live standing right on the line as I watch. It's always fun to watch. I've probably seen about a dozen or so over the years. It's a good gun, but you either love it or hate it. Those who love it do well, those who hate it, use a lever gun and do well with that. I understand it's more popular in Ohio, which makes sense as that is where Lassiter is from. Around here in New England, I don't see very many of them. I am one of the few that uses one on a regular basis. I get told that I run it well, whatever that means. That's all there is to it. You can take what I say literally. At times I do admit to being "generic" in my descriptions, as I don't want to get the details wrong, but am always happy to clarify if specifically asked for specifics. That last sentence brought to you by the department of redundancy department.

Yeah, that would be a good definition of "Some." Other possible ways to put it would be "a few." Heck, when shooting at a large dump target, I can do 10 rounds in about 3.something seconds. But that's highly unusual!

Diagonal cutting pliers. Amazingly enough, I have never written the word. That said, since I think of the things that hold back the ocean as a dike, I'd call the cutters a dyke. I understand that's unPC now. Microphone is a mic. Micrometer, is also a mic. Making your engine run faster is surprisingly souped. I base this on the fact that souped comes back okay, but suped has a red wavy line under it. The diminutive of Honey is Hon. How do you spell it? I T I watched ZOOM as a kid.

I am faster with a Lighting than I am with any levergun. BUT, I am not a top tier shooter. That being said, I have seen some really great shooters who run run off 10 rounds from a Lightning in less than 3 seconds. General speaking, the speed rifle matches are done with main match rifles, and the the Lightning is legal for that. Of course, unless you've got a dump target, in the hands of an expert, I'd say the best lever shooter and the best Lightning shooters would be on par with each other.

Time to invest in some 10 Gauge All Brass hulls and reloading equipment form RMC. Expensive as all get out to do that, but well worth it for such a fine gun. That in fact, is my plan. If I ever get a 1901, I'll just factor in the cost of the reloading stuff.

While I can't comment specifically on their 94, I can say that I have a good feeling about the Cimarron. Basically because it's made by Chiappa, and the Chiappa 87 and 92 are excellent guns that seem to be good to go right out of the box, comparing favorably to an original Winchester. And that's just their functionality. They don't have a stupid safety, or angle eject. They are like the gun as designed by JM Browning. (If only Winchester/Browning would make 'em that way!) Now, I have a pre-64 94 in .32 Winchester Special, and a pre-83 in .30-30. Both are good guns, the pre-64 being better, but the pre-83 not as bad as some people like to make it out to be. (I wouldn't touch a post 83 with a ten foot pole) If the Chiappa/Cimarrons are at least as good as a pre-83 Winchester, you can't go wrong. I won't comment on the caliber, cuz I don't have anything in that chambering. But I will say this, that depending on how "long range" the long range side match is, .30-30 might not be enough. I've been to a couple of matches where the .30-30 just couldn't reach the targets. That's part of the reason why I switched to .45-70. That being said, people familiar with the .38-55 say it has good long range performance, so there's no reason not to give it a try. Finally, even .45-70 can be loaded with the right powder to a level where it will have very manageable recoil, and not lose it's long range performance. That's all

Common sense would dictate that if the gun is legal, the ammo it shoots is legal, and it doesn't have to be specified. And there is a precedent. Technically speaking, original ammo for the Nagant revolver would be illegal according to the rules. But the pistol is specifically specifically listed as okay. Years ago, I asked about this apparent contraction and Pale Wolf soon made a post to the effect of since the gun is legal, its ammo is legal. But to this day, no exception for the Nagant ammo is listed in the Handbook. I would argue that if the Spencer is legal, its ammo is legal. Also, the Spencer generically fits in the "lever action rifle made between 1860 and 1899" category. and there is nothing that says it is NOT a legal rifle. So again, if the gun is legal, its ammo is legal. At least, based on precedent.