H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Rifle number 1: Pre-Safety Rossi 92 in .44 Magnum. Has had minimal action work done to it by Happy Trails. It's no race gun, I just wanted it smoothed out a little to be less clunky and more like a real Winchester. Rifle number 2: Pre-83 Winchester 94 in .44 Magnum. Factory Stock. I figure these two rifles are as good as any for an apples to apples comparison between a 92 and 94. Pistols were an original Great Western in .44 Magnum and an Uberti in .44 Magnum. Shotgun was an 18.5" Chiappa 87. It's been a while since I used a 87, and I had some... operator error... with it. But the thing to watch is the comparison betwixt the two rifles. Here's the Rossi 92... https://youtu.be/Q0h6aXm7mf0 And here's the Winchester 94... https://youtu.be/of5uapsIenk I seem to have shot both rifles equally well, and the 94 did not give me any troubles. At least, it didn't on this stage. In the next stage, not recorded, I used the 94 again, and I had an issue with it. I tried to go a little faster, and I think I may have short stroked it a little, so it kinda jammed, but I did clear and continue with no further problems. The gun will never be a go to one for me for SASS, but I did find it "workable" Granted, I am slower than most, so that may have helped me. But I will not discuss the rather embarrassing problems I had with my 87... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 16 hours ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: Rifle number 1: Pre-Safety Rossi 92 in .44 Magnum. Has had minimal action work done to it by Happy Trails. It's no race gun, I just wanted it smoothed out a little to be less clunky and more like a real Winchester. Rifle number 2: Pre-83 Winchester 94 in .44 Magnum. Factory Stock. I figure these two rifles are as good as any for an apples to apples comparison between a 92 and 94. Pistols were an original Great Western in .44 Magnum and an Uberti in .44 Magnum. Shotgun was an 18.5" Chiappa 87. It's been a while since I used a 87, and I had some... operator error... with it. But the thing to watch is the comparison betwixt the two rifles. Here's the Rossi 92... https://youtu.be/Q0h6aXm7mf0 And here's the Winchester 94... https://youtu.be/of5uapsIenk I seem to have shot both rifles equally well, and the 94 did not give me any troubles. At least, it didn't on this stage. In the next stage, not recorded, I used the 94 again, and I had an issue with it. I tried to go a little faster, and I think I may have short stroked it a little, so it kinda jammed, but I did clear and continue with no further problems. The gun will never be a go to one for me for SASS, but I did find it "workable" Granted, I am slower than most, so that may have helped me. But I will not discuss the rather embarrassing problems I had with my 87... Saving on powder again?😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: Saving on powder again?😉 I said I was not gonna speak about my problems with the shotgun... But... Yeah, I still have about 3 boxes of that underloaded stuff. I might just get a pick and dig it all apart at this point... Edited October 13 by H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Jack Black Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 said: I said I was not gonna speak about my problems with the shotgun... But... Yeah, I still have about 3 boxes of that underloaded stuff. I might just get a pick and dig it all apart at this point... See you in the Spring After 2 hip replacements 3 back surgeries a spinal fusion Slight heart attack ,and now a blown bicep tendon Doc says after 5 years of all this I am cleared to shoot again. SLOWLY . Last match was in 2019. Best Wishes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619 Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 2 hours ago, Texas Jack Black said: See you in the Spring After 2 hip replacements 3 back surgeries a spinal fusion Slight heart attack ,and now a blown bicep tendon Doc says after 5 years of all this I am cleared to shoot again. SLOWLY . Last match was in 2019. Best Wishes Looking forward to seeing you again. All kidding, and shotgun problems aside, I find it interesting how I did just as well with the 94 as I did with the 92. In fact, I think the 94 worked a little better for me. Weird. The gun has a really bad rep in our game, but, part of me wonders if when the gun was made might have something to do with it. Mine is a pre-83 one. One actually made by Winchester, not US Repeating Arms, and is top eject. It doesn't have angle eject of any other of the features that ruined the gun after USRA took over production. Generically, I find pre and post 83s to be vastly different in quality, pres better, posts worse. Given how rare these early .44s are, I can't help but wonder if the bad rep just comes from less well made guns that are sadly the norm for 94s in this caliber. Granted, even this one will never be a preferred go to gun for SASS, but I did find it to be surprisingly workable. I understand Marlin also made the 336 in .44 Magnum before they put safeties on it. Might be interesting to obtain one of those for comparison as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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