H. K. Uriah, SASS #74619

Depending on caliber, type and amount of powder, you will get more or less flame, but you always get some. If you want a LOT of flames, use black. If you want less, experiment with different smokeless powders till you find what you want. Or, don't worry about it. OR Get yourself a Sheriff's model in .44-40 and load it with black. Lotsa fire and smoke.

I have a question I'd like to ask of someone who actually owns a shotgun in the Marlin 98 family. But it has to be one that has the button release thingee on the right side of the receiver. Since this is more a question of curiosity about, added to the fact that it's not SASS legal and that I have no desire to see this turn into a thread about that topic, I ask that someone who has one PM me, and I'll send you the question,

Anyone here make them, or know someone who does?

Generically, if you are going to do a stage like that, you need to advertise it in advance so people know to bring the extra stuff. AND, it probably needs to be optional or scored separately from the main match for anyone that chooses the option. To have be designed to keep visitors from winning is just wrong.

The closest I can offer to that is what we used to call an "Iron Man" match here in New England. 4 pistols, 2 rifles, and the shotgun. As much shooting as a 6 stage match in 3 super stages. Someone, I can't remember who, was the designated "gun handler" to help the shooter stage and carry his or her guns. The same procedure could be used at a 10-10-5-4, perhaps.

There are times when I wonder if instead of swapping out the regular "main match" rifle for a "Cody Dixon" type rifle, if adding such a thing as a 5th gun could be a viable alternative variation of CAS. In other words, instead of 10-10-4+, 10-10-5-4+. Ten rounds from pistols, 10 from a pistol caliber repeating rifle (IE a Main Match Rifle) 5 rounds from a rifle caliber repeating rifle, and 4+ from a shotgun. Call it what you will. At minimum, you'd need one more target "a bit farther away" than the "regular" rifle ones. Which means you'd need shooting bays long enough to have said targets added. You could run it as an "experimental" extra category at any otherwise regular shoot to see if anyone would want to try it, or if it was popular. Along the same lines, have you ever noticed that there are essentially 2 kinds of rifle caliber (By rifle caliber, I mean cartridges that won't fit in a a revolver) cartridges? Type 1 are rounds that would fit in a Winchester 76, 86, Large Frame Lightning, Marlin 1895, or similar rifles. Type 2 rounds are things that would fit in a Winchester 94, Marlin 336, and other comparable rifles. I suppose there is a potential 3rd category that sorta bridges the gap between these two types, and these would be rounds that work in the Winchester 95. Things like .30-40 or .405 Winchester that have more "power" than the things you'll see in the 94, but are very different from what you'll see in an 86. There may even be some overlap in some cartridges, but I don't wanna get lost in the weeds. I've also noticed that the type 1 cartridges tend to have longer long range capability, but that just may be the fact that I'm not the best shot!

How about a Savage 99? (Hides)

Just out of curiosity, has anyone any experience with the Uberti made 94's? How is the quality? How do they compare to a real Winchester?

Maybe, that's not an answer. Can you enlighten those of us who are unaware of the distinction?

What is significant about 1927?

Ah, I just thought of something! Uberti is making a clone of the 94. No safeties, no angle eject, just an honest replica of the gun as designed by John Browning. That would be the way to get a "new 94." I assume the out of the box quality is akin to their other Winchester replicas.

Option 1: Pre 64 Winchester 94. Potentially expensive, but a reasonable price is still possible. Option 2: Pre 83 Winchester 94. Not as good as the pre 64s, but still good guns, and even more affordable. If you wanna be choosey, search for a "Sears Model 100 Ted Williams" one. They have more "traditional" sights than many of the "regular" 94's of this era. No hood or ramp on the front, just a blade. Option 3: There is no option 3, at least as far as a Winchester is concerned. I would not pay 10 cents for a post 83 94. Option 4: I have to put this as 4 because I have no experience. A Marlin. Many people will tell you they are fine guns, and they very well could be. I just don't know cuz I don't have one. (I shoot left handed) Some will tell you they are just as good, or better than my Options 1 and 2. That being said, if I was gonna go the Marlin route, I'd be going for a used one that's C&R eligible. (Made before 1956) No safeties, no rifling designed for jacketed bullets. But that's just me. Just my opinion.

Well, today I made a great fine, a Uberti SAA clone with a 7.5" barrel for $390. And it was in .44 Magnum! Always wanted an SAA type pistol in this caliber, and it was amazing to find one here in Massachusetts. I doubt very much that I'll ever fire "full power" loads in it even though I know it would be perfectly safe to do so. Questions: 1. Anybody here have one of these things? 2. Anybody who has one ever fire full power loads in it, and if so what's the recoil like?