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    Revolver for Sale

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    Posted · Edited by Bisley Joe

    FOR SALE. One Cimarron Single Action Army, 4.75" barrel, 45 Colt. Black Powder Frame.

    New. I fired about 25 rounds through it. Selling because I prefer the Bisley grips.

    I am selling this revolver for $500 including shipping.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Gunbelt Curve?

    in SASS Wire Saloon

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    Anyone here use gunbelts with a curve to them? Regular or moneybelt?

    What I mean is: if you lay the belt flat on a table, does the leather look like part of a circle, or a straight line?

     

    If yes, does the curve make a difference in comfort and staying on?

     

    If no, do you have any issues with the belt being uncomfortable or wanting to work its way down/off?

     

     

    BigLube Bullets/Molds Alternatives? Solutions? Squishy-Squish?

    in SASS Wire

    Posted

    On 1/25/2024 at 4:09 PM, Griff said:

    I can't help on 38s & BP... but BP with the 45 Colt and general rifle loading, I can offer up what I do.  45 Colt rifles, I use a bullet I cast from a RCBS 45-225-CAV mold, it has a great lube groove which carries enough lube for my 24-¼" rifles.  For pistols I load the C45S with either Goex or APP and a 160 grain cast bullet from Badman bullets, absolutely no need for that big 45 case in the handguns at SASS distances.  (Not really needed in the rifles, but takes a special carrier to adapt a toggle link to use the short case).

     

    For the 45-70, using Goex, I compress my powder using a compression die. then a "waxed card" wad (think old paper milk jug, then either a lubed wool wad or a grease cookie and a 405 grain RFN bullet that I size & lube with SPG.  This gives me plenty of lube for the 26" bbl on my 1886.  In my rifles I'm not using a "hard cast" bullet, and compressing the load with the bullet stands a good chance of deforming the nose.  

    Thank you!

    BigLube Bullets/Molds Alternatives? Solutions? Squishy-Squish?

    in SASS Wire

    Posted · Edited by Bisley Joe

    Howdy,

     

    Building up my gear to start reloading BP soon. Went looking for Big Lube molds: .38 Special and .45 Colt (maybe .4570 also). Seems they're out of business.

     

    Any ideas on similar molds? Solutions?

     

    Here's one idea I have. Please feel free to give your opinion, as y'all have experience here that I do not...

    I have heard about using lube wads, but compressing will usually squeeze the lube into the powder.

    So do you think this will work:

     

    • Card between bullet and powder (like paper plate material)
    • Drop of something like white glue over that to seal it.
    • Putting in the lube wad/cookie on top, but out of the freezer. This would keep the lube in the wad (frozen) from squishing out when compressed.

     

    Note:

    If this technique works, and if I am the first one to think of it, I expect to be placed in the SASS hall of fame and my image to replace the SASS Cowboy on every logo. Also, when I attend any SASS matches, all present must do a jig: violently dancing while screaming "Yee-Yeee Partoski-Poo Poo" and firing their pistols into their shooting carts. (only one handed allowed).

    Bisley to No.5

    in SASS Wire Saloon

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    I love the .357 but if I was going into bear country I’d want the biggest bullet I could carry. .45 or .44 magnum would do the  job better than. .357 IMHO

    Yeah I agree. I'd be fine with a .357 around here, but when it comes down to it, if I had to pick one caliber it would be 45 Colt.

     

     

    Now I need to see if the Bisley grip on the Cimarron can me modified into a No. 5 style: maybe with a regular plow handle grip frame front.

     

    Bisley to No.5

    in SASS Wire Saloon

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    3 minutes ago, Alpo said:

    I was following you all the way up to that line.

     

    otto get involved, and that was supposed to say WITH EITHER?

    Edited.

    Thanks for the heads up on the typo.

    Bisley to No.5

    in SASS Wire Saloon

    Posted · Edited by Bisley Joe

    How-dee!!!

     

    Just wanting to hear the pros and cons and bipidee-baps..

     

    I am converting a Ruger Old Vaquero in 45 Colt to a Bisley. This will be a woods gun loaded with Buffalo Bore.

     

    This got me thinking: Anyone done a conversion to a Colt replica, like a CImarron/Uberty to make a Bisley into a sort of No5 grip: switching out the front grip-frame section of the Bisley for a standard plowshare on for less of a forward slant?

     

    The question after that is whether to carry a 45 Colt or 357 Magnum to the woods. While the .357 is a stout round, I am wondering the comparison to a 45 Colt loaded all the way with BP. I know the 357 is much faster, but damn if that report isn't obnoxious. Seems like the 45, although slower, would still be plenty effective against large animals, especially with a hard cast bullet. I'm talking for defense, not hunting.

     

    I have a pair of flat-tops in 45 that I have thought about selling to get them in .38, and then get the Bisley revolvers in 45 Colt. I find the extra barrel wall thickness in .38 to make the Single Action Army feel a little front heavy.

     

    If going to brown bear country, I think I'd stick with the Ruger loaded with Buffalo Bore and with either a 45-70 lever action or a 12 gauge with 3" magnum slugs.

     

     

     

    Old Ruger vaquero to Bisley Conversion?

    in SASS Wire

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    1 minute ago, The Rainmaker, SASS #11631 said:

    This conversion should be a parts replacement with maybe some minor fitting. If you can strip your pistol down, it will be no problem.

    A good resource is Power Custom; they'll walk you through whatever you need.

    Thanks! I will look into that resource!

    Old Ruger vaquero to Bisley Conversion?

    in SASS Wire

    Posted

    Apologies for replying so late. Thank you for the replies.

    Ordered the Bisley hammer, trigger, and grip frame. The trigger is on back order, so hopefully won;t be too long.

    I called Ruger and they can do the conversion, but said to call in a month or so because they are swamped. Wouldn;t mind doing it myself as long as there's no real serious gunsmithing involved.

    This will be my woods gun: 45 Colt loaded with Buffalo Bore or similar. It's a blued gun, but I got the frame and hammer (not sure bout the trigger) in stainless. I think it will look interesting, but really it's just for the woods, so nothing to worry about really.

     

    Gotta say, not a fan of Rugers for the historical look (too chunky) but great guns for the woods. I think the new Ruger vaqueros are same size as Colts though-not sure.   I do very much like the Ruger "Bisley" grips. They are, for me, a perfect shape. I believe they are actually the Elmer Kieth #5 or something like that. I have thought of converting a regular plow-handle from Cimarron to that style by keeping the front part of the regular grip frame and adding a Bisley rear part of the frame.

    This is because some years ago I had to sell my Bisley revolvers due to life, and still miss them. Having held the #5 style, I prefer that style over both the standard plow-handle version and the standard Bisley version. Of course, I would also swap in a Bisley hammer and trigger.

    Come to think of it, maybe better to get a regular Bisley Cimarron and just swap in the regular plow handle front grip frame section.

    Old Ruger vaquero to Bisley Conversion?

    in SASS Wire

    Posted

    HOwdy,

     

    I have an Old Ruger Vaquero in 45 Colt with a 4.75" barrel. This will solely serve as my woods gun-in case of being assailed by a large critter. I plan on loading it with Buffalo Bore or equivalent rounds.

    However, I want to to convert it into a Bisley, as it is much more comfortable, for me, to shoot etc. with hot loads.

     

    Any advice on this? Better to sell it and buy a Bisley one?

    There was someone here selling a Bisley version, but I lost track.

    Also, in the middle of a career change so gathering info for the next month or three until I catch up-unless someone is interested in a trade.

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