Blast Masterson

Well to start with, you cannot refuse an inspection of your vehicle because you feel the Game Warden was a jerk! You're lucky he didn't impound your vehicle. Just for reference I was a federal game warden in a past life. In most states a game warden has the right to "inspect" (not to be misconstrued as a "search"), if you are located in an area where fish and game are located (not in Times Sq., New York City), and there is reason to believe that you are engaged or could be engaged in the taking of said Fish and Game. This could be as little as a fishing bobber on the dashboard of your truck. I'm not splitting hairs with words as our "barracks lawyer" above. What I'm trying to portray is it there is a difference between a Game Warden and a LEO. There are actually different laws and standards of practice for a Game Warden. When it comes to vehicle/building searches a Game Warden has considerably more latitude. This is similar to the implied consent law pertaining to driving under the influence. You have a drivers license, which is a privilege not a right and you are agreeing to submit to a field sobriety and/or breathalyzer test (or blood tests) if the officer has "reasonable articulable suspicion" that your driving under the influence (not to be confused with the right to search the vehicle, visual observations only). If you have a hunting license, "implied consent" comes into play. Again, this is an "inspection" not a "search". Anything found during the vehicle inspection is evidence. Also, the area of the vehicle which is inspected must be able to contain fish and/or game. So searching your eyeglasses holder compartment on the roof of your truck is not likely to hold a 12 point buck or a legal size trout. The only reason I'm posting all of this is so no one gets the notion you can flip off a Game Warden that is polite enough to ask to look into your vehicle or cooler (he does not have to 'ask') and get away with it based upon this thread. This Game Warden was probably wet behind the ears otherwise he might have called for a tow truck, impound your vehicle and your gun until such time as a search warrant could be obtained and a now "search" is conducted. Even if nothing was found, you could loose your license to hunt/fish (that greater latitude provided to the Dpt of Fish and Game). Discretion is the better part of valor on his part , but if you want to be a jerk he can play the game also . Just so you know.

If they ask you more than who you are, just plead the fifth. 'I will answer questions when my lawyer gets here.' They don't need to advise you of your rights, but if your stupid enough to incriminate yourself that's too bad for you. They know what and why they are doing it, so as long as your polite there should be no ramifications. If there are, you have a law suit. And they know it.

And what probable cause did they have to do a field sobriety test on you? Can I search your vehicle? "No Thank You...

This has been addressed. This conversation continues due to the inability to realize that the 2nd amendment does not provide the right to carry anywhere, anyhow. Just as the 1st amendment does not give you the right to call 'Fire' in a movie theater.

When you go to a Doctor in Texas, do they not ask you not to bring your gun in? They don't want guns laying around when you take your clothes off. They just don't have the facilities for that. I don't like being told what to do concerning my firearm any more than the next guy. I'm retired LEO, CCW, and carried a gun for 51 years. None of that matters to someone responsible for the safety of a match on a private range. The simple answer is that a lot of effort is put forth to create a safe range environment. We spend way too much time policing the shooters (in my opinion), but the fact is, there are more than enough screw-ups ("oh gee where did that live round come from?") as you clear/load your guns at the tables. We don't need to have wanna be Cowboys wandering around polluting the safe zone of the match. Yes, most of us can safe;y carry our guns loaded between stages without incident, but there is that .001%. Every one at the range has a drivers license, but don't you see an idiot or two driving on your way to the match?! They are out there! SASS has an outstanding safety record. The last thing we need is a black eye so someone can use it to shut us down! They are everywhere! So I recommend we put aside our insecurities of being unarmed (I fully understand how that feels) and just suck it up. It's the Cowboy way... As you get started in SASS helping out on the shooting line, take a look around you. I assure you you'll see bullet holes where bullet holes aren't supposed to be. They are out there, everywhere! As for potential threats from Antifa on a range, we all walk around with a bunch of ammo on our belts. We practice grabbing guns on the move, loading them and engaging targets in a matter of seconds, There are staged/unloaded shotguns sitting around in gun carts everywhere. How long would it take for 80 shotgun loads to head up-range? Just saying. What we do and how we shoot is highly prone for potential mishaps. It's amazing to me that more problems don't arise than they do. There are a lot of us old farts playing this game that just don't have what we used to physically and mentally (not as bad a Joe Biden though) and we can credit all the shooters on the range that are looking out for each other to make this happen. So lets not throw anything more at it than we need to.

Bathroom GFCI's should not leave a bathroom type circuit per Code (depends on how old the house is). When they daisy chain outlets to one GFCI, if they put the wires in the wrong place it will not work. It's not just white, black, copper. There is an in and an out. Let them figure it out.

You know where they are made don't you?

Spitflier - on a side note, I am new to CAS also and after putting over 2,000 rounds threw my new guns, my opinion is that your guns must operate properly for you and your capabilities. You don't need a Corvette to drive to church... Tuning a gun shaves thousands of a second off your time. Missing the target costs you 5 sec. Transition between guns on a stage saves 'seconds' off your time. You must make 1,000 modifications to your guns to save 1 sec off your time. See where I'm going with this? Concentrate on the important things. Try out as many guns as you can to see what you 'need' to be competitive at your level. I bought SASS Rugers because they come with a hammer that fits me. I changed the springs myself. I bought a CAS 1873 because the stock is already modified. The short stroke will help anyone. With a few adjustments, it was smooth operating for a starting shooter. I bought a used shotgun that someone had modified and I spent countless hours (lots of Dollars if you can't do your own work, which few of us can do) to make it run right. For me, the shotgun was not so important and I knew what I was getting into; barrel separation, lock timing, double discharge problem, improper stock finish, bent firing pins, etc. SO , consider your purchases carefully. A larger investment up front may provide a smoother ride. There is nothing worse than going to the line with a gun your not sure about... New vs. Used: if you find a good deal on used, buy the time you need to really go fast you will be ready for a high end gun (if the used one lasts). Then you'll have a 'backup' when things go South with your main guns and have to take a trip to the Smith.

I bought one last year. It did need work. I spent about 4 hours on the original parts and it is as slick as any worked gun I have tried. Only added part was a stainless mag spring because the original springs rust out in no time here in the Southeast. And some leather work on the comb and lever. As someone said, it's about 70% ready. More like 90% if you have some tools and do some reading on line on tuning springs. I would like to change the lever safety spring from leaf to coil spring. Can't get the leaf spring light enough w/o making it too weak and break.