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On 5/23/2025 at 11:16 PM, Larsen E. Pettifogger, SASS #32933 said:
Good review by Nostrum. I have an old RCBS and two Mr. Bullet feeders. One of the Mr. Bullet feeders has been modified for .32 H&R. (Not as easy job!) None of the bullet feeders that use a spring tube from the feeder to the dropper and ball bearings in the dropper work with lead bullets and crayon lube. The lube scrapes off in the spring tube and gums up the ball bearings which have to move absolutely freely to work. Here is an old thread on the Dillon bullet feeder. Scroll down and look at the posts by Mogollon Monk. He is a LONG time Dillon employee and makes most of the user videos for Dillon. In one post he says no lubed bullets. In another he says you can use the .30 rifle version for .32 handgun. I drove over to Dillon to pick up a feeder just to play with it. My results are outlined below.
The .30 feeder will not work with the .32 H&R without considerable work and some machining. I would say that the vast, vast majority of SASS shooters could not make it work. I am at the point where if I buy something and it does not work and I had the fun of screwing with it for a week or so I do not care if it ultimately does not work as long as I had fun playing with it. After modifying the bullet plate (actually combining two plates into one) and doing some machining on the bullet dropper through a lot of trial and error I got the feeder to work with .32 H&R and it is now installed on my old Dillon RL1050.
The Dillon feeder has some similarities to the old RCBS bullet feeder. I bought one years ago and quickly found it would not work with lead/lubed bullets. It was also very finicky about what shaped bullets it would feed. Nose shape and whether the bullet was flat based or bevel based made huge differences in reliability. Here is the old RCBS collator plate.
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Dillon has made one HUGE improvement. It is the bullet "rejector" Nostrum mentions. The "rejector" is a section of the collator that moves up and down vertically so you can adjust for bullet nose and base shape. In the photo below is what is left of a Dillon collator ring after I cut 3/8" off the OD of the ring to use on top of another ring to size the collator for the shorter .32 pistol bullets. The purple arrow is pointing to a flat based bullet sitting on the ledge created by the non-moving center portion of the collator. The outer ring rotates around it. The improved part is the section of the inner ring that moves up and down to adjust for nose and base shape. Green arrow. Once the bullets are past this section they drop down a chute that would be attached to the area shown by the red arrow.
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I'm jealous that you can load .32's with the Bullet Feeder. I've used a Double Alpha Gen 1 for years, & recently replaced it with the Gen 2. I bought the Gen 2 about 5 minutes before Dillon came out with theirs, or I would have the Dillon now. The Gen 2 works well enough (.38's coated) that I couldn't rationalize switching now. Uncoated bullets didn't work well for me, but I didn't try it for long. I load the 38's on a 1050 with the DA Gen 2. I load .32's on a 650, & it takes a LOT longer to crank out the .32's, as you can imagine. The .32/650 combination is a considerably more finicky also. But, that's what the little woman likes to shoot, so that's what the little woman (Ophelia Payne) gets to shoot. I'm just thankful that I have a shooting partner that insists on shooting every weekend, rain, sleet or snow year-round. And, she has no faults & she looks good, too. No, she's not for sale. Find your own!
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On 5/8/2025 at 9:27 AM, Randy Saint Eagle, SASS # 64903 said:
T-Square, glad you're making it to Wartrace, I am pretty sure you'll like it! All hits will be easily attainable provided you don't exceed your speed limit.🤠
Looking forward to seeing everyone!
Randy
No problem for T-Square. He never misses anyway!
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On 4/22/2025 at 9:35 PM, Krazy Kajun said:
You gotta know people to get a water front camping spot! 😎
Kajun
Kajun had some good fishing right out his camper door.
Max & Ophelia Payne will be there for sure, including camping at Ray Beech's place.
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On 5/19/2025 at 2:07 PM, Renegade Roper said:
We are looking at buying a MEC 9000gn & need to figure out what bushing # for 42 grns of APP FFFG we would need. I called MEC & they had no idea for APP, (they did give me the bushing number for American Select). I went to APP's website & they didnt have anything either. I also tried the internet but no luck.
Someone suggested a universal charge bar but they are discontinued at Midway USA.
Any help would be appreciated. Thx!
Roper & Schwaby
Hey, guys! I like a fine powder for consistent loads & reduced clumping. 777 works great! My recipe for the 9000 is 28 bushing, 7 1/2 shot, 1 OZ, Pink CB1100 Claybuster wads, STS Gold hulls (so I can tell 'em from my Green smokeless STS). That'll give you 24.4 grns of 777. Makes all the smoke you need & will knock 'em down. I used some I made in 2021 in the Georgia State BP match. 1st of 6 in my category & 3rd overall. They worked great for me.
And, I personally hate the universal bar. I tried it for awhile, but changing the settings was more complicated for me than just settling on bushing recipes.
I also use 777 for Ophelia's 32's on a Dillon 650. It doesn't clump like APP & GOEX, neither of which I could make work. I am using APP for 38's on a 1050 till it's gone. Then, I'll switch to 777.
Good luck! And, hope to see you soon. Tennessee? Southeast Regional?
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22 hours ago, El Sobrante Kid said:
Did the Simple Green actually remove the anodized oxide layer, or did it just remove the colored dye?
I can say without hesitation that I have no idea!
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I cleaned Ophelia Payne's aluminum carrier in the UltraSonic with Simple Green. It ate the anodizing off. Good news is she's been shooting it that way for a couple of years, & it doesn't function any differently. Looks like a Titanium carrier now.
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On 9/12/2024 at 9:21 PM, Scrub Oak Willie 53737 said:
OTJ : Were are the ladies categories , Grand Dame, LSS , ETC.
Willie
Which one are you shooting, Willie? Grand Dame?
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21 hours ago, MizPete said:
Is my spot saved?
Your spot is saved, but we haven't received your registration. Just talked to Pete, & he promised to get it out.
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I started with 2 Evil Roy .38's 12 1/2 years ago. I was having trouble with one right out of the box. I was ordering some holsters from Bob Mernickle & mentioned the trouble I was having. Bob said, "I know somebody who will want to know about that!). 20 minutes later I got a phone call from Evil Roy, & he said, send that gun to me. It's got my name on it, & I can't have that". I sent it to him & he had Ken Griner fix it at his cost & sent it back.
Needless to say, I was impressed.
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Remington STS reloads work best for me. I almost never have a stuck shell. I do brush the chambers & then run a 3" patch every 2 or 3 stages.
If I shoot Winchester AA's, I can count on a stuck shell, no matter that I chamber-check every one with an EGW checker when I put it on the belt to shoot a stage. And, that's after doing the same brushing routine as with STS. I'm slow enough without adding time to fix stuck shells.
I use AA's for practice & warmup stages, & that's it!
Remington STS reloads work best for me. I almost never have a stuck shell. I do brush the chambers & then run a 3" patch every 2 or 3 stages.
If I shoot Winchester AA's, I can count on a stuck shell, no matter that I chamber-check every one with an EGW checker when I put it on the belt to shoot a stage. And, that's after doing the same brushing routine as with STS. I'm slow enough without adding time to fix stuck shells.
I use AA's for practice & warmup stages, & that's it!
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Camping reservations were full last October. However, due to some unforeseen physical surprises, 2 spots have opened up. If you want one, send me a PM ASAP! And, follow quickly with a completed application.
Go to https://www.srscowboy.com/events.html for the application.
All spots have 30 & 50 amp & water. No sewer, but there is a dump station.
The Georgia State Championship is one of our very favorite shoots, & Fast Eddie does a fantastic job making everyone have a great time!
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On 12/21/2024 at 7:07 AM, Sawyer said:
I remember the year I won the Georgia State Match, wait a minute, that wasn't me. Just a dream I guess!
We thought you were teaching a shooting school!
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Cowboys & Indians used to sell them. I don't know if they're still in business?
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On 3/4/2025 at 5:19 PM, Shawnee Hills said:
Do you have your MBF hanging off of your case feeder? I had the problems that you described until I isolated it to its own mount. Been feeding 105 gr. 38s flawlessly since.
I added a bracket to the casefeeder to raise the MBF, which helped. Maybe I should do it more as you did. Thanks for the feedback.
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4 hours ago, Waimea said:
Jace the Ace is now two time Buckaroo World Champion!
It has been my great pleasure to watch him growing from a boy into a young man.
He will be an influence for good in whatever he chooses to do with his life.
Congratulations from your biggest admirer!
Definitely a cool kid!!
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1 hour ago, Kingsley said:
Mine arrives tomorrow. Fingers crossed. I'm really hoping it will feed full wad cutters, Mr BF does not. Dillon folks were unable to tell me if they would or would not. I'm guessing they will not. Hopefully have it set up by this weekend.
cardboard
Very interested in what you have to say!
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I bought a Mr. BulletFeeder when they first came out & have been using it until recently to make .38's. It has been VERY finicky, with lots of jams, bullets feeding upside down, etc. But, even with the constant adjustments & fixing, I would rather use it than not use it. For the short stretches when it's running problem free, I can really crank out some bullets, sometimes 100 bullets in less than 3 minutes.
When they came out with the Gen2 Mr. BulletFeeder, I hoped it would be easier to live with & bought one. About the time I got it set up, (maybe a month or so ago?) I read about the Kevin Roberts version here on the wire. As it turns out, I have less bullets feeding upside down, but pretty much all of the other problems are still there. I'm comfortable there are those of you who have been better at tuning theirs than I am, but I do have those problems. And, if there's nothing better, I would rather use it than not use it for the times when everything is running smoothly & fast.
If you're a Kevin Roberts user, what problems/irritations do you have? Does it jam from time to time? How often does it feed bullets upside down? Do the bullets jam when travelling down the spring chute? Just how good is it? If I spent money yet again & tried one, will I love it, or will I have the same love/hate relationship I now have?
And, now Dillon has come out with one. They claim 65,000 bullets made without one upside down feed. I don't know just how problem free it is otherwise. If they have shipped any, & if you have one, some feedback would be appreciated. My wife & I shoot every weekend, year-round, & I make a LOT of bullets, so I like to utilize any time & energy saving processes & tools that I can.
Thanks in advance!
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On 9/13/2024 at 5:25 PM, The Outlaw Travis James said:
Use the link provided above. If it is like the hotel link, it should take you right to the rate. @Santa Fe River Stan,36999L
We're all fixed up with camping reservations. See you then!!
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Deb/Ophelia called the Santa Fe Palms RV Resort to make reservations. They had no record of a $65 rate for Last Stand shooters. Maybe they just haven't gotten the word yet?
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Have you altered the length? If so, how long are they?
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I have two of the Frankford arsenal vibra tubes. They hang up about 5-8 times while I'm loading 100, & I have to take it apart each time & straighten it out. I've tried everything from holding it at different angles, tapping it on the bench, using silicone spray (don't do this one), whatever I could think of. I even bought the 2nd one thinking maybe it was the one, but the new one does the same thing.
This machine is a pain, but it's better than using the pickup tubes.
If I knew the Hornady works perfectly, or close to perfectly, I'll spring for the price.
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I withdraw my offer.
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Faygo, you said above that if anybody had any questions on the Cochlear implants, to PM you.
I PM'ed with with some questions. No response. I tried again, & found that I was blocked.
Naturally, I'm puzzled.
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Obviously, the best advice will come from the known fast guys, like Deuce & Junky on this topic.
However, I can share my experience in my own evolution, & I have decreased my stage times significantly over the last year, & that year over the previous. Here are some things I have learned:
If I try to shoot fast, I jack a round. If I think more about fast than hitting every single target every single time, I'm going to jack a round.
I decide on a cadence, ESPECIALLY for a dump, or 4+ shots on a target that is safe for me, & it isn't as fast as I think I can shoot.
I practice, usually 300-400 rounds/week. I'm fortunate to have a setup in my backyard with a mountain as my berm.
If I have a misfire, I give the mainspring a quarter turn tighter.
If it's a cold day (like 35 degrees or colder), & I'm at a shoot where I don't get a warmup stage to test everything, I'll tighten the mainspring a quarter-turn anyway, cause I know it's more likely to misfire on a cold morning.
Even if it's a dump, focus on every single shot hitting the target. If you do that, & if you practice at least once/week, the speed will take care of itself.
It's a lot like golf, as others have pointed out before. If you try to hit the ball hard, it doesn't work out. If you swing smoothly & correctly, you'll be amazed at how far the ball goes & how well things turn out. That's the only thing I learned at golf, because even though I played regularly & faithfully once a year, I never got any better.
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