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    The world is getting stranger and stranger

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    11 minutes ago, Dantankerous said:

    Why doesn't anyone call Egyptians Africans or an Egyptian living in America African American?

     

     

     

    The easy answer to that is, because they have a known country of origin. The tendency to use the broad "African-American" started when most blacks in the U.S. couldn't name a country of ancestry, because their ancestors were brought over against their will and they had no specific ancestral memory to rely on. With the use of DNA testing, there has been improvement in that area.

    Oh, I'm an American of Scots-Irish, Dutch and English ancestry. But I agree with the great Theodore Roosevelt as well.

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    Gene Hackman, at 95

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    45 minutes ago, Pat Riot said:

    Every news article I read said “Hackman and wife both found dead in their home. Santa Fe Sheriff’s Dept suspects no foul play” then the articles move on to sing the praises of Gene Hackman. Truly weird. 
     

     

     

    And their dog, according to what I read. Carbon monoxide?

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    The stuff people will answer

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    Ya know, @Alpo, sometimes you start a thread that doesn't leave me wondering about your thought processes, and this is one of them. I believe you hit the nail on the head with both questions and insight. I rarely talk specifics about what firearms I might or might not own, or ammunition either, unless I have a specific need to know. Even then I try to find the answer without posting a question. On occasion I might let my guard down, but I try hard not to. Because, like you said, "it's just nobody's business."

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    Bragg is back

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    3 hours ago, watab kid said:

    there ya go - there were plenty of voices against slavery , my families among them , but erasing history and tearing down monuments to people that stood up for their home states is an unforgivable disgrace , no better than the taliban doing such in their areas of influence and that went back a lor farther than ours did ...............anyway PUT THEM BACK UP 

     

    Given your response, I'm not sure you read my entire post. My point was that by 1860, slavery wasn't normal nor acceptable. Except in the South, where they literally chose, according to their own documents, to fight a war over it. Instead of the comparison to the Taliban, having those statues up would be more akin to leaving statues and artwork of Saddam Hussein in Iraq after the war, or statues and monuments to Hitler and other high ranking Nazis in Germany at the end of WWII.

     

    I won't get into why the statues were erected in the first place. One can remember history and keep it from being "erased," without keeping statues placed for the wrong reasons. Erasing history can work both ways.

    Bragg is back

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    In his 1775 treatise, Taxation No Tyranny, British author Dr. Samuel Johnson rhetorically asked, “How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?”

     

    “[T]here is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it...” - George Washington 1786

     

    I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in abhorrence … ” - John Adams 1819

     

    “Slavery is … an atrocious debasement of human nature.” Benjamin Franklin 1789

     

    "He has waged cruel war against human nature itself, violating it's most sacred rights of life & liberty in the persons of a distant people who never offended him, captivating & carrying them into slavery in another hemisphere, or to incur miserable death in their transportation thither. this piratical warfare, the opprobrium of infidel powers, is the warfare of the CHRISTIAN king of Great Britain. determined to keep open a market where MEN should be bought & sold, he has prostituted his negative for suppressing every legislative attempt to prohibit or to restrain this execrable commerce." - Thomas Jefferson, early draft of The Declaration of Independence, 1776

     

    One need look no further than the secession documents of the Southern states to understand that, while they claimed "states' rights," as allowing their secession, the first and primary reason for doing so was to avoid the elimination of slavery. This, many decades after so many, slave holders among them, argued against the practice as against human nature.

     

    While I will assert the states should have had the right to secede from the Union, I am under no illusion as to why they chose to do so.

     

     

    Bragg is back

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    15 minutes ago, Widder, SASS #59054 said:

    I wonder just how many southern cities are named after Native American tribes or Native American

    chiefs, etc........who were considered savages.

     

    Pffft.... Did you ever look at a map of Ohio?

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    Bragg is back

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    1 hour ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:

     

    Your term, racist is null and void anytime you dont agree with something . Case closed

     

    “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” 

     

    How convenient for you. You can ignore an entire exposition that you would otherwise have to defend against by keying in on one little word near the end. An adjective in this usage at that. I suppose that's analogous in its own way to those on the left who don't like something  and simply say "Hitler." I suppose it saves you from being offended and butt hurt. Or does it? At any rate, congratulations on finding a safe out so that you don't have to worry one way or another.

     

    Quick knowledge check, do you even know who you are quoting? It's by philosopher George Santayana, and the actual quote is "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

     

    1 hour ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:

     

    Meet PFC Bragg 
     

    Pfc. Bragg enlisted in the Army and was assigned to the 17th Airborne Division’s 513th Parachute Infantry Regiment, part of the XVIII Airborne Corps at the post that bears his name.

    He was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart for heroics during the Battle of the Bulge, according to Hegseth’s memo. Bragg is credited with saving another soldier’s life by “commandeering an enemy ambulance and driving it 20 miles” to an Allied hospital in Belgium, the memo says.

    Bragg died in January 1999. He was 75.

     

    Interestingly, nowhere did I say that PFC Bragg was undeserving. I simply noted that MSG Roy Benavidez would have been my preference. Considering the fort is the home of the JFK Special Warfare Center I consider it appropriate.

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    4 hours ago, PowderRiverCowboy said:

    So serious question did you ever even serve in Military ?

     

    What in the wide, wide world of sports does that have to do with anything? Before you start in with "If you didn't serve...," just remember this: The military is, and by necessity must be, subservient to the Constitution and the duly elected civilian authority. That is, the citizenry of the United States who elect their representatives. Thus, if an American citizen formulates an intelligent, articulate and well reasoned opinion, then their military experience on such issues is irrelevant. I would say it was relevant to matters of combat experience and armchair quarterbacking things done in the heat of battle, but that is a very different thing.

    There is significant documentation to support the assertion that the forts named for confederate generals were so named to assuage Southern feelings at the time the "lost cause" argument was propounded as confederate soldiers aged. It may be coincidental that the naming, the placement of statues of confederate heroes, the lost cause argument, and Jim Crow were taking place at roughly the same period in time, but I think meeting the burden in showing such a coincidence would  be quite taxing. 

    So, for those who are comfortable maintaining such names, despite the arguably racist history surrounding them, my response is feel free to do so, just be honest with yourself and everyone else as to that history.

     

    Personally, I still think Bragg should have been renamed Fort Benavidez.

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    New digs.

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    12 hours ago, Forty Rod SASS 3935 said:

    Yer outta yer cotton pickin' mind.  See what cold weather does to you!

     

    Nah, it's the lack of oxygen at those elevations!

    Seriously, it looks like a great setup for what you want it for!

    Go ELGSES

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    18 hours ago, Rye Miles #13621 said:

    She was a high school English teacher before becoming a state rep and then the 100th mayor of Philadelphia 🙄

     

    Everyone makes mistakes. Teachers, professors, lawyers, doctors... Heck, even tradesmen! The only person not making mistakes, isn't doing anything. At least that's what my dad once told me a few minutes before asking me if I can do anything right.

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